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KDE wasn’t the first gui for Linux. Wasn’t writing that duplicating effort? If it wasn’t for people rewriting things because it didn’t suit them we wouldn’t h

KDE wasn’t the first gui for Linux. Wasn’t writing that duplicating effort? If it wasn’t for people rewriting things because it didn’t suit them we wouldn’t have most of the modern software we have today.

bluGill 5y ago
Before KDE there wasn't any consistent toolkit to make consistent apps on. There are a lot of frameworks in KDE that get reused to do powerful things and make them work. X11 did some things like the middle button paste, but there are a lot of things missing and so nobody had it. KDE fixed those. (And GNOME too )
- webmaven 5y ago
  > Before KDE there wasn't any consistent toolkit to make consistent apps on. That's just not true. CDE was released before KDE, and the Motif widget set CDE uses is older still.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Its true on Linux. It wasn't used because it wasn't free software and you had to pay to use it, it was a default propietary UNIX GUI on commercial UNIX computers. You're assuming Motif+CDE has always been open source and used on Linux, it became free software too late, GNOME and KDE became better DE, were free, it wasn't as good as those alternatives by that time and nobody had any incentive to switch to CDE (desktop Linux didn’t even use it aside from a blip that RH did). Motif was propietary software until 2012 and subject to royalty fees, the same could be said about OSS for linux audio, which they abandoned for ALSA since it wasn't proprietary (OSS went from free to proprietary so it was abandoned, by the time it was free again nobody wanted to use it), except nobody used CDE or motif on linux aside from RH for a short time because it wasn't free software.
    - webmaven 5y ago
      I'm not assuming those things. Motif+CDE wasn't open source, but it was in use on Linux, just not officially. Sticklers could use Lesstiff instead.

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KDE wasn’t the first gui for Linux. Wasn’t writing that duplicating effort? If it wasn’t for people rewriting things because it didn’t suit them we wouldn’t h

by DrBazza 5y ago

bluGill 5y ago
Before KDE there wasn't any consistent toolkit to make consistent apps on. There are a lot of frameworks in KDE that get reused to do powerful things and make them work. X11 did some things like the middle button paste, but there are a lot of things missing and so nobody had it. KDE fixed those. (And GNOME too )
- webmaven 5y ago
  > Before KDE there wasn't any consistent toolkit to make consistent apps on. That's just not true. CDE was released before KDE, and the Motif widget set CDE uses is older still.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Its true on Linux. It wasn't used because it wasn't free software and you had to pay to use it, it was a default propietary UNIX GUI on commercial UNIX computers. You're assuming Motif+CDE has always been open source and used on Linux, it became free software too late, GNOME and KDE became better DE, were free, it wasn't as good as those alternatives by that time and nobody had any incentive to switch to CDE (desktop Linux didn’t even use it aside from a blip that RH did). Motif was propietary software until 2012 and subject to royalty fees, the same could be said about OSS for linux audio, which they abandoned for ALSA since it wasn't proprietary (OSS went from free to proprietary so it was abandoned, by the time it was free again nobody wanted to use it), except nobody used CDE or motif on linux aside from RH for a short time because it wasn't free software.
    - webmaven 5y ago
      I'm not assuming those things. Motif+CDE wasn't open source, but it was in use on Linux, just not officially. Sticklers could use Lesstiff instead.