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If these injections were like traditional vaccines, I might be more acceptable of the responses in this topic. But they're not. They're medical treatments desi
by scarygliders 5y ago
If these injections were like traditional vaccines, I might be more acceptable of the responses in this topic.
But they're not. They're medical treatments designed to only reduce symptoms of Covid by attuning the body's immune system to a specific part of the virus - its spike protein.
I'm 52 with no underlying health conditions. I have already caught Covid-19. I had 3 days of feeling a bit unwell, and a fever. Then it was over. This was in late 2019. It went through the rest of my family that same week/fortnight, and we all had the same symptoms and the same outcome - we all recovered from a "weird flu" as I described it at the time in emails to customers. This was before all the hoo-hah started early 2020.
We have suffered no long term ill effects. None of us had "long covid" (Post-Viral Syndrome).
Our immune systems became attuned to further Covid infection.
In fact the biggest medical problem I had this year was my appendix going BANG! and at hospital I tested negative for Covid. Despite the news that catching it in hospitals was highly likely, that did not happen.
Myself and my 19yo son made the informed choice to not consent to this medical treatment people are calling a "vaccine". My wife decided to consent to the medical treatment, and she had such a bad reaction to it she decided not to have further injections.
Two weeks ago, my son managed to catch Covid again. LFT and PCR confirmed. This was despite him wearing masks and taking all other recommended precautions. So he had to self-isolate for 10 days and didn't go out or to work.
Neither my wife nor I caught it from him - we took Lateral Flow Tests frequently - and we didn't really take any precautions in the house. Meals were done together as usual, no mask wearing etc. My wife had to self-isolate despite negative tests and I work from home anyway.
Same symptoms as we all had in late 2019, he has fully recovered from it - again - with no ill effects, no Post-Viral Syndrome (which some people are calling "long covid"), and is back at work and getting outside.
My main point is this - a lot of the responses in this topic appear to be made on the premise that these injections are a "vaccine" like the measles, mumps and rubella vaccines are for example, but they are only designed to reduce symptoms of the disease rather than get your immune system to recognise and fight the overall virus.
I'm absolutely certain that even though you might have had these injections, your immune system fights the overall virus in parallel with the additional sensitivity to the spike protein (and thus the potential for reduction in symptoms caused by the spike protein).
You're still going to catch Covid no matter how many times you've been injected, and you still have the potential to spread the disease to others, injected or not.
I now await responses calling me and my son idiots, or selfish, or irrational, or irresponsible - this is incorrect. We have direct experience of the illness. I know for a fact my immune system can take effective action against this particular coronavirus, just as it has taken care of other coronviruses in the past. As far as my son and I are concerned, we have just as much immunity to Covid if not better than those who received an injection which only attunes one's immune system to a spike protein.
We are intelligent, rational people who took the time to weigh up the pros, cons and risks of consenting to these injections, and for us, the cons and risks outweighed the pros.
"What about everyone else!?!? Why can't you think of others!?" - my response to that is: What do YOU have to worry about from us if YOU have consented to these medical treatments? Either they work as advertised and you've nothing to worry about because you've been fully "vaccinated" - or they do not work and you're in exactly the same situation as we are. Your "vaccine" does not need my "vaccine" in order to work.
- maxerickson 5y agoHow did you confirm that the 2019 infection was COVID? I've heard repeated stories from people that had the bad cold that went around that winter and wanted it to be COVID. None of them have been like 'and I confirmed I had antibodies when the tests came out', they've had negative antibody tests or gotten COVID or still don't have any confirmation.
- scarygliders 5y agoExcellent question, and one which has gone through my head a few times since the start of all the hoo-hah. Late 2019 practically no one - including myself - had heard of the thing. There were of course no covid tests at the time, so all we have to go on are symptoms. The symptoms we had - they weren't exactly flu symptoms, they weren't symptoms exactly matching the common cold. With a common cold, you get a runny nose and a sore throat amongst other symptoms. I don't remember ever having a high fever with a common cold. Influenza, you'll get a fever, coughing and sneezing, and you're in for a bad time for more than 3 days. Last flu I had, the symptoms lasted for a week at least, with a recovery time measuring a couple of weeks after. We each in turn were waylaid in bed for about 3 days, with a persistent cough, a fever, and generally feeling pretty rotten. No runny nose or persistent sneezing. This was no bad cold nor was it influenza - I've had flu before and know what flu feels like. Similarly with a bad cold. It's why I described it as a "weird flu" in an email to customers at the time - we never encountered such an odd illness like that before. The Covid-19 pandemic did not just suddenly begin early 2020 as if it just suddenly appeared. It was with us for a while before that, in 2019, and in many countries. Patient Zero will get it and it'll spread exponentially - it only takes 1 person who unwittingly caught it, they fly to another country, someone else there unwittingly gets it, they travel somewhere else, and so on and so forth. It takes time for the various health organisations around the world to begin noticing, start talking to each other, and make recommendations to their governments. By the time governments got to the "we must do something" point, that was early 2020.
- maxerickson 5y agoI would describe that as "you have not confirmed it".