And I think people need to realize that, 25 years ago, the Fortune 500 in the US listened to the trade press, decided that off-shoring development was the magic

And I think people need to realize that, 25 years ago, the Fortune 500 in the US listened to the trade press, decided that off-shoring development was the magic bullet, and now there's an entire industry in India devoted to cranking out absolute baseline-level programmers who have learned nothing but programming control structures in Java using Eclipse. Some of us work in companies that are STILL following that model, and falling further and further behind in our markets because of it.