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It just shows how little you know. Like I said, you are very ignorant. There are specific biological pathways that are responsible for these major psychiatric i

It just shows how little you know. Like I said, you are very ignorant. There are specific biological pathways that are responsible for these major psychiatric illnesses. Many of them are metabolic. And because there are specific and quantifiable biochemical causes for hearing voices for example it’s possible for you to be objectively wrong about the whole thing as you very much are.

yakubin 5y ago
Why do you rule out drugs making people addicted? If some drugs can alter your consciousness, as they clearly do, why wouldn't some of them be able to get you addicted to them? To be clear, I do agree that a lot of cases of addiction will start with emotional problems getting people into prolonged consumption. However, emotional problems can also get people into obsessive running, yoga or whatever. But after getting their mind straight people generally don't need to be careful and abstain from running due to risk of a relapse of obsessive running --- contrast this with drugs, most prominently alcohol. Risk of relapse only happens with drugs, because it seems to my layman mind that it's not the emotional problems that get people addicted, but substance abuse. Emotional problems get people into substance abuse, but it's the substance that creates addiction, not the emotional problems, because see example with running. And there are other triggers that get people into irresponsible consumption (societal expectations, such as in military[1]) that aren't emotional problems. They nonetheless often end in addiction, because of what the substance is doing to people's brains. [1]: I'm talking about what I've heard from my father from Soviet era military about nicotine. I don't know what it looks like now/in other countries.
- supperburg 5y ago
  Our emotional underpinnings motivate everything we do. My step mom is a hoarder. But she’s so smart and well adjusted that I didn’t recognize it until I was an adult because everything is perfectly organized and rationalized. But the core emotional issue of not being able to throw things away is there. The vast majority of Vietnam soldiers who used heroin overseas did not continue using heroin after coming home. They weren’t using different kinds of heroin, therefore it is the person and not the material.

yakubin 5y ago

Why do you rule out drugs making people addicted? If some drugs can alter your consciousness, as they clearly do, why wouldn't some of them be able to get you addicted to them? To be clear, I do agree that a lot of cases of addiction will start with emotional problems getting people into prolonged consumption. However, emotional problems can also get people into obsessive running, yoga or whatever. But after getting their mind straight people generally don't need to be careful and abstain from running due to risk of a relapse of obsessive running --- contrast this with drugs, most prominently alcohol. Risk of relapse only happens with drugs, because it seems to my layman mind that it's not the emotional problems that get people addicted, but substance abuse. Emotional problems get people into substance abuse, but it's the substance that creates addiction, not the emotional problems, because see example with running. And there are other triggers that get people into irresponsible consumption (societal expectations, such as in military[1]) that aren't emotional problems. They nonetheless often end in addiction, because of what the substance is doing to people's brains. [1]: I'm talking about what I've heard from my father from Soviet era military about nicotine. I don't know what it looks like now/in other countries.

supperburg 5y ago
Our emotional underpinnings motivate everything we do. My step mom is a hoarder. But she’s so smart and well adjusted that I didn’t recognize it until I was an adult because everything is perfectly organized and rationalized. But the core emotional issue of not being able to throw things away is there. The vast majority of Vietnam soldiers who used heroin overseas did not continue using heroin after coming home. They weren’t using different kinds of heroin, therefore it is the person and not the material.