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> I'm sure they've fixed it by now, So it’s not true anymore and yet you seem to be claiming it is, > but I recall an early story of an asian woman giving her

by zepto 5y ago

> I'm sure they've fixed it by now, So it’s not true anymore and yet you seem to be claiming it is, > but I recall an early story of an asian woman giving her phone to a coworker and being startled by the phone unlocking. Do you? Is there any evidence or a link to a credible source? Seems like a weird racist trope. Given how popular iPhones are in China, we’d likely know if there was anything to this.

tehjoker 5y ago
> So it’s not true anymore and yet you seem to be claiming it is, I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt to be charitable since it seems like the kind of thing that is fixable with years of technical development. I have no evidence. > Do you? Is there any evidence or a link to a credible source? Seems like a weird racist trope. Given how popular iPhones are in China, we’d likely know if there was anything to this. https://www.newsweek.com/iphone-x-racist-apple-refunds-device-cant-tell-chinese-people-apart-woman-751263 https://www.newsweek.com/iphone-x-racist-apple-refunds-devic... I should add that I don't think asian people look alike and that it's racist to make those claims.
- zepto 5y ago
  That article doesn’t make the claims seem credible at all. And certainly doesn’t support your claim that the security is terrible. As far as I can see you are in fact lending credibility to a racist meme to support your own assertion about the security of Face ID. > For what it's worth, the face recognition unlock is probably the most insecure unlock there is on the phone (and unsettling to me when I've tried it).
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  - tehjoker 5y ago
    It is possible that the article was not credible. I was able to find reports of only two instances from 2017 of this being reported. The first did not come with verification. The second, below, did come with videos but it was extremely difficult to tell if the phone was the same model or even if FaceID was triggered due to the hard cuts and camera angles. A second video purported to show it switched off by a mask, but the action happens so quickly it's difficult to make out what exactly happened. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5201881/The-iPhone-X-slammed-RACIST-Chinese-users.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5201881/The-... I'll allow that I possibly fell for clickbait hysteria. If so, it does seem convenient for news to prepend a headline like "iPhone X Racist?" and then proceed with a racist trope to allow you to feel like it's not racist. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

by zepto 5y ago

tehjoker 5y ago

> So it’s not true anymore and yet you seem to be claiming it is, I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt to be charitable since it seems like the kind of thing that is fixable with years of technical development. I have no evidence. > Do you? Is there any evidence or a link to a credible source? Seems like a weird racist trope. Given how popular iPhones are in China, we’d likely know if there was anything to this. https://www.newsweek.com/iphone-x-racist-apple-refunds-device-cant-tell-chinese-people-apart-woman-751263 https://www.newsweek.com/iphone-x-racist-apple-refunds-devic... I should add that I don't think asian people look alike and that it's racist to make those claims.

zepto 5y ago
That article doesn’t make the claims seem credible at all. And certainly doesn’t support your claim that the security is terrible. As far as I can see you are in fact lending credibility to a racist meme to support your own assertion about the security of Face ID. > For what it's worth, the face recognition unlock is probably the most insecure unlock there is on the phone (and unsettling to me when I've tried it).
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- tehjoker 5y ago
  It is possible that the article was not credible. I was able to find reports of only two instances from 2017 of this being reported. The first did not come with verification. The second, below, did come with videos but it was extremely difficult to tell if the phone was the same model or even if FaceID was triggered due to the hard cuts and camera angles. A second video purported to show it switched off by a mask, but the action happens so quickly it's difficult to make out what exactly happened. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5201881/The-iPhone-X-slammed-RACIST-Chinese-users.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5201881/The-... I'll allow that I possibly fell for clickbait hysteria. If so, it does seem convenient for news to prepend a headline like "iPhone X Racist?" and then proceed with a racist trope to allow you to feel like it's not racist. I'll try to be more careful in the future.