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Have either Tim Sweeney or Mark Zuckerberg said that there's plans for only a single metaverse? I think it's been pretty clear that they're going to work on th

by dagmx 5y ago

Have either Tim Sweeney or Mark Zuckerberg said that there's plans for only a single metaverse? I think it's been pretty clear that they're going to work on their own metaverse products. Epic seems to build on Fortnite , while Meta have Horizon. I don't believe either have stated compatibility as a goal.

wmf 5y ago
They're each going to build their own metaverse and they're planning for that to be the one and only metaverse. They're planning to kill each other.
- dagmx 5y ago
  Yeah that's totally what I expect, which is why I'm confused why the person I replied to seems to believe there'll be a single one. I know that the Web 3.0 Cryptocurrency crowd have ideas on the idea of a decentralized web with a shared ontological understanding, so maybe that's the source of the idea of there being a single metaverse? But neither Epic nor Meta seem interested in a shared ecosystem. The metaverse is a product and their implementations will compete. I'm not sure if people would even want to be in two separate metaverses so competition will be fierce. Most media (books/movie) sidestep that by usually having a single metaverse creator. That's in large part because it's narratively easier to deal with a single villain and universe. I don't know of any that posit having competing offerings.
  - cma 5y ago
    Sweeney laid out his vision here, in 2016 before Fortnite launched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG9-6k3RYIU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG9-6k3RYIU
  - wmf 5y ago
    Agreed. You can have Facebook and Twitter open in two browser tabs and switch between them, but will Facebook and Epic even support the same headset? How much hassle would it be to log out of one and log in to the other? I think they literally want to monopolize your face.
theptip 5y ago
Yes, Zuck discussed this with Ben Thompson for example: https://stratechery.com/2021/an-interview-with-mark-zuckerberg-about-the-metaverse/ https://stratechery.com/2021/an-interview-with-mark-zuckerbe...
- dagmx 5y ago
  Crucially he only seems to call out commerce and goods. He doesn't really say it'll be a single metaverse. It'll be similar to the app stores today. you'll have Android, iOS etc..and each will have some of the same apps, but they're not actually running the exact same app. The metaverses will be similar. They'll end up with many of the same apps and experiences, but devs will have to publish independently to each platform.
  - theptip 5y ago
    > MZ: I think it’s probably more peer-to-peer, and I think the vocabulary on this matters a little bit. We don’t think about this as if different companies are going to build different metaverses. We think about it in terminology like the Mobile Internet. You wouldn’t say that Facebook or Google are building their own Internet and I don’t think in the future it will make sense to say that we are building our own metaverse either.

by dagmx 5y ago

wmf 5y ago

They're each going to build their own metaverse and they're planning for that to be the one and only metaverse. They're planning to kill each other.

dagmx 5y ago
Yeah that's totally what I expect, which is why I'm confused why the person I replied to seems to believe there'll be a single one. I know that the Web 3.0 Cryptocurrency crowd have ideas on the idea of a decentralized web with a shared ontological understanding, so maybe that's the source of the idea of there being a single metaverse? But neither Epic nor Meta seem interested in a shared ecosystem. The metaverse is a product and their implementations will compete. I'm not sure if people would even want to be in two separate metaverses so competition will be fierce. Most media (books/movie) sidestep that by usually having a single metaverse creator. That's in large part because it's narratively easier to deal with a single villain and universe. I don't know of any that posit having competing offerings.
- cma 5y ago
  Sweeney laid out his vision here, in 2016 before Fortnite launched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG9-6k3RYIU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG9-6k3RYIU
- wmf 5y ago
  Agreed. You can have Facebook and Twitter open in two browser tabs and switch between them, but will Facebook and Epic even support the same headset? How much hassle would it be to log out of one and log in to the other? I think they literally want to monopolize your face.

theptip 5y ago

Yes, Zuck discussed this with Ben Thompson for example: https://stratechery.com/2021/an-interview-with-mark-zuckerberg-about-the-metaverse/ https://stratechery.com/2021/an-interview-with-mark-zuckerbe...

dagmx 5y ago
Crucially he only seems to call out commerce and goods. He doesn't really say it'll be a single metaverse. It'll be similar to the app stores today. you'll have Android, iOS etc..and each will have some of the same apps, but they're not actually running the exact same app. The metaverses will be similar. They'll end up with many of the same apps and experiences, but devs will have to publish independently to each platform.
- theptip 5y ago
  > MZ: I think it’s probably more peer-to-peer, and I think the vocabulary on this matters a little bit. We don’t think about this as if different companies are going to build different metaverses. We think about it in terminology like the Mobile Internet. You wouldn’t say that Facebook or Google are building their own Internet and I don’t think in the future it will make sense to say that we are building our own metaverse either.