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My whole extended family runs on vanilla Fedora. Even my two surviving grandparents use Gnome as their desktop. They are perfectly happy. The only problem that

by esarbe 5y ago

My whole extended family runs on vanilla Fedora. Even my two surviving grandparents use Gnome as their desktop. They are perfectly happy. The only problem that arises from time to time are some weird-ass Windows applications that refuse to run with even Wine. Gnome is a smooth desktop that's easy to grasp and gets out of your way and definitively not aimed at Linux admins. For those there's tmux.

jjcon 5y ago
>My whole extended family runs on vanilla Fedora. Even my two surviving grandparents use Gnome as their desktop. And then everyone started clapping
- esarbe 5y ago
  and dancing to the rhythm, the voices were chiming and the bodies - wet with sweat - moving in harmony as the beats filled the emptiness in their lonely hearts and for a moment - a fleeting moment - they felt the joy and freedom they all had been searching for so long. Oh, sorry. You got a point?
  - jjcon 5y ago
    Its an idiom (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/and-then-the-whole-bus-clapped https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/and-then-the-whole-bus-clappe...) My point is that I can make stuff up too! If you need evidence that linux is just not ready for non-technical user prime time just take a look at the ltt video from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0506yDSgU7M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0506yDSgU7M
    - esarbe 5y ago
      I certainly doubt that this is evidence that linux is not ready for non-technical user prime time. Why? Because that kind of shit also happens on Windows. With administrative access, you can always kill your machine. What Linux lacks and what Windows has more then enough is informal support services. You know, that person in the family that just knows their way around computers, that does computer stuff. (Almost) every elderly person above a certain age is lost when it comes to computers. Most people alive cannot be trusted to install an application - not on Windows, not on Linux and not even on OS X (well, maybe on OS X nowadays, because you cannot install unsigned software these days) because all that software might be compromised. Every time you let a software on to your system, you can potentially brick it. And then you need a solid understanding of what's going on. For most people, computers are black boxes whose internal state is a mystery that is far too complex to be explored. They have no interest in exploring these mysteries. They have work to do; forms to fill, letters to write. And these people need the aforementioned informal support they can turn to whenever they need to diverge from the well-trodden paths. It doesn't depend on the operating system, but on the surrounding support system. That's why I don't consider that video evidence that Linux isn't ready for prime time, just as I wouldn't consider a video of someone bricking their Windows as evidence that Windows isn't ready for prime time. These people just need someone they can ask for help. For my family - that me.
jjcon 5y ago
>My whole extended family runs on vanilla Fedora. Even my two surviving grandparents use Gnome as their desktop. And then everyone stood and started clapping
- cercatrova 5y ago
  Agreed, sometimes HN really does read like satire

by esarbe 5y ago

jjcon 5y ago

>My whole extended family runs on vanilla Fedora. Even my two surviving grandparents use Gnome as their desktop. And then everyone started clapping

esarbe 5y ago
and dancing to the rhythm, the voices were chiming and the bodies - wet with sweat - moving in harmony as the beats filled the emptiness in their lonely hearts and for a moment - a fleeting moment - they felt the joy and freedom they all had been searching for so long. Oh, sorry. You got a point?
- jjcon 5y ago
  Its an idiom (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/and-then-the-whole-bus-clapped https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/and-then-the-whole-bus-clappe...) My point is that I can make stuff up too! If you need evidence that linux is just not ready for non-technical user prime time just take a look at the ltt video from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0506yDSgU7M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0506yDSgU7M
  - esarbe 5y ago
    I certainly doubt that this is evidence that linux is not ready for non-technical user prime time. Why? Because that kind of shit also happens on Windows. With administrative access, you can always kill your machine. What Linux lacks and what Windows has more then enough is informal support services. You know, that person in the family that just knows their way around computers, that does computer stuff. (Almost) every elderly person above a certain age is lost when it comes to computers. Most people alive cannot be trusted to install an application - not on Windows, not on Linux and not even on OS X (well, maybe on OS X nowadays, because you cannot install unsigned software these days) because all that software might be compromised. Every time you let a software on to your system, you can potentially brick it. And then you need a solid understanding of what's going on. For most people, computers are black boxes whose internal state is a mystery that is far too complex to be explored. They have no interest in exploring these mysteries. They have work to do; forms to fill, letters to write. And these people need the aforementioned informal support they can turn to whenever they need to diverge from the well-trodden paths. It doesn't depend on the operating system, but on the surrounding support system. That's why I don't consider that video evidence that Linux isn't ready for prime time, just as I wouldn't consider a video of someone bricking their Windows as evidence that Windows isn't ready for prime time. These people just need someone they can ask for help. For my family - that me.

jjcon 5y ago

>My whole extended family runs on vanilla Fedora. Even my two surviving grandparents use Gnome as their desktop. And then everyone stood and started clapping

cercatrova 5y ago
Agreed, sometimes HN really does read like satire