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Yep, you're describing the offices and schools I've worked and studied in for the last 5 or 6 years. 8-16 hours a day in rooms without sunlight. It rarely cross

Yep, you're describing the offices and schools I've worked and studied in for the last 5 or 6 years. 8-16 hours a day in rooms without sunlight. It rarely crosses my mind. I can say that I would in a heartbeat, no questions asked, choose a single-person room with no windows that I only sleep and study in, over a shared room where I have minimal privacy and I run the risk of having my sleep schedule be completely trashed by an inconsiderate roommate. This design is asking you to walk out of your room if you want sunlight. It's not ideal. Some students would rather not. They're doing sardine-packing here as a matter of necessity and there's going to be some tradeoffs, but frankly this is a pretty minor one.

xg15 5y ago
> They're doing sardine-packing here as a matter of necessity and there's going to be some tradeoffs, but frankly this is a pretty minor one. I honestly don't understand this. It's not like this is a new problem. There are plenty of ways to pack a building and still give each room a window - a famous example being the Pentagon building. The view way not be particularly nice, but at least it would give you fresh air and a sense of time and space. He said has has copied architecture patterns from cruise ships. Of course you can't design a ship with courtyards, so windowless cabins sort of make sense there. But he is not building a cruise ship.
- Kaibeezy 5y ago
  Cruise ship with a courtyard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_of_the_Seas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_of_the_Seas Almost 3000 rooms, but easily could have been more as all the cabins are bigger than in Munger Hall. Total pricetag is about the same at $1.4B. Does UCSB have a pier? Hmm...
  - xg15 5y ago
    Ha, wouldn't have thought - thanks for the info. I found this: https://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/articles.cfm?ID=668&stay=1&posfrom=1 https://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/articles.cfm?ID=668&stay=1&po...

xg15 5y ago

> They're doing sardine-packing here as a matter of necessity and there's going to be some tradeoffs, but frankly this is a pretty minor one. I honestly don't understand this. It's not like this is a new problem. There are plenty of ways to pack a building and still give each room a window - a famous example being the Pentagon building. The view way not be particularly nice, but at least it would give you fresh air and a sense of time and space. He said has has copied architecture patterns from cruise ships. Of course you can't design a ship with courtyards, so windowless cabins sort of make sense there. But he is not building a cruise ship.

Kaibeezy 5y ago
Cruise ship with a courtyard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_of_the_Seas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_of_the_Seas Almost 3000 rooms, but easily could have been more as all the cabins are bigger than in Munger Hall. Total pricetag is about the same at $1.4B. Does UCSB have a pier? Hmm...
- xg15 5y ago
  Ha, wouldn't have thought - thanks for the info. I found this: https://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/articles.cfm?ID=668&stay=1&posfrom=1 https://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/articles.cfm?ID=668&stay=1&po...