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I don't totally agree. This can work. Gnome and kde have a larger mission. They need to be everything for everyone. They need to work on many different archs. Y

I don't totally agree. This can work. Gnome and kde have a larger mission. They need to be everything for everyone. They need to work on many different archs. You end up either special casing everything, or being the lowest common denominator. Pop_os is carving out its own niche. System76 can just focus on what its customers want. And its customers are a much smaller subset from all of the users/systems running kde/gnome.

Wowfunhappy 5y ago
I'd expect System76 customers to use their machines for the same range of tasks as most other desktop Linux users. Perhaps they don't need to support as wide a range of hardware, but how much does that matter for a DE?
- canadaduane 5y ago
  There's an open space to fill right now for "switchers" coming from Mac OS, with a high expectation of polished experience when they invest more than $2k into their main driver hardware. These new Linux users don't want "choice at all costs" (the current vibe I get from the community) but rather, "good design that just works", with a Mac OS expectation origin. I think this explains why System76 chose Gnome over KDE, and why they built Cosmic. If their users aren't satisfied with Gnome's (somewhat inflexible) constraints, then the natural choice is to piecemeal develop a better DE for customers.
jjcon 5y ago
Wholeheartedly agree. Gnome in particular I have been very disappointed/baffled by in the past few years. Killing off desktop icons, system tray/status icons, pushing out global menu bars. Not to mention the way they handle HiDPI and fractional scaling is atrocious. Pop_OS has added a lot of this crucially missing UX. If they can build a better mouse trap, I wholeheartedly welcome it.
- kaba0 5y ago
  > Not to mention the way they handle HiDPI and fractional scaling is atrocious. What do you mean?

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I don't totally agree. This can work. Gnome and kde have a larger mission. They need to be everything for everyone. They need to work on many different archs. Y

by elromulous 5y ago

Wowfunhappy 5y ago
I'd expect System76 customers to use their machines for the same range of tasks as most other desktop Linux users. Perhaps they don't need to support as wide a range of hardware, but how much does that matter for a DE?
- canadaduane 5y ago
  There's an open space to fill right now for "switchers" coming from Mac OS, with a high expectation of polished experience when they invest more than $2k into their main driver hardware. These new Linux users don't want "choice at all costs" (the current vibe I get from the community) but rather, "good design that just works", with a Mac OS expectation origin. I think this explains why System76 chose Gnome over KDE, and why they built Cosmic. If their users aren't satisfied with Gnome's (somewhat inflexible) constraints, then the natural choice is to piecemeal develop a better DE for customers.
jjcon 5y ago
Wholeheartedly agree. Gnome in particular I have been very disappointed/baffled by in the past few years. Killing off desktop icons, system tray/status icons, pushing out global menu bars. Not to mention the way they handle HiDPI and fractional scaling is atrocious. Pop_OS has added a lot of this crucially missing UX. If they can build a better mouse trap, I wholeheartedly welcome it.
- kaba0 5y ago
  > Not to mention the way they handle HiDPI and fractional scaling is atrocious. What do you mean?