>It's somewhat off topic but why do you say this? Is it the 'progressive' issue or the 'web app' issue. It's the Google issue. They've been shoving these APIs

>It's somewhat off topic but why do you say this? Is it the 'progressive' issue or the 'web app' issue. It's the Google issue. They've been shoving these APIs down our throats trying to make it happen solely to build up the Chrome ecosystem. Firefox does not and will not ever support them, and they will never become an actual web standard, although Google has tried to present it as such.