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Many fewer vaccinated people are getting infected than unvaccinated I think the data is showing that isn't true, that the numbers are nearly equal in places wi

Many fewer vaccinated people are getting infected than unvaccinated I think the data is showing that isn't true, that the numbers are nearly equal in places with a high percentage of the population vaccinated. The only benefit is that the vaccinated don't get as severely ill.

maxerickson 5y ago
The percentages aren't the same, incidence is much lower (6x) among the vaccinated. https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/95119 https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/9511...
- AndrewBissell 5y ago
  These numbers don't pass the smell test, it's just more nonsense being pumped out by the CDC to push the vaccines, probably in large part an artifact of wildly different levels of testing being done with the unvaccinated vs vaccinated. In the UK every age group over 30 is seeing a higher case rate in the vaccinated. I think this is probably explained by a higher prevalence of natural immunity in the unvaccinated cohort but it also shows the vaccines are not providing a high level of prevention of infection: https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/ukhsa-efficacy-stats-death-watch https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/ukhsa-efficacy-stats-death-...
  - maxerickson 5y ago
    Hilarious. "The evidence is fake, take the mectin".
    - AndrewBissell 5y ago
      Actually what I think you should do is continue to proceed as though the vaccines make you impervious to COVID and see how it works out.
      - maxerickson 5y ago
        Do you use the same rigor in information gathering in developing all of your opinions as you used in developing your opinion about my approach to COVID?
  - belltaco 5y ago
    Not true, see the graph. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scicheck-why-its-easy-to-misinterpret-numbers-of-deaths-among-the-vaccinated/ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scicheck-why-its-easy-to-m...
    - AndrewBissell 5y ago
      I'm not sure which claim of mine you are asserting is "not true" since my post was about case rates and the graph in your link depicts deaths. As far as the cases go the eugyppius post deals with all the supposed caveats and speculations raised in your fact check link. Very funny how they only get raised when the reported case rates are higher in the vaccinated, and not when it was time to kvetch about a "pandemic of the unvaccinated." It even supports my natural immunity theory at one point: > Plus, COVID-19 infections among the unvaccinated in the prior four-week reporting period may be “artificially reducing” the case rate for that group in the latest report. None of these gymnastics would be necessary if the vaccines were genuinely preventing infections at a rate of 6x.

maxerickson 5y ago

The percentages aren't the same, incidence is much lower (6x) among the vaccinated. https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/95119 https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/9511...

AndrewBissell 5y ago
These numbers don't pass the smell test, it's just more nonsense being pumped out by the CDC to push the vaccines, probably in large part an artifact of wildly different levels of testing being done with the unvaccinated vs vaccinated. In the UK every age group over 30 is seeing a higher case rate in the vaccinated. I think this is probably explained by a higher prevalence of natural immunity in the unvaccinated cohort but it also shows the vaccines are not providing a high level of prevention of infection: https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/ukhsa-efficacy-stats-death-watch https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/ukhsa-efficacy-stats-death-...
- maxerickson 5y ago
  Hilarious. "The evidence is fake, take the mectin".
  - AndrewBissell 5y ago
    Actually what I think you should do is continue to proceed as though the vaccines make you impervious to COVID and see how it works out.
    - maxerickson 5y ago
      Do you use the same rigor in information gathering in developing all of your opinions as you used in developing your opinion about my approach to COVID?
- belltaco 5y ago
  Not true, see the graph. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scicheck-why-its-easy-to-misinterpret-numbers-of-deaths-among-the-vaccinated/ https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scicheck-why-its-easy-to-m...
  - AndrewBissell 5y ago
    I'm not sure which claim of mine you are asserting is "not true" since my post was about case rates and the graph in your link depicts deaths. As far as the cases go the eugyppius post deals with all the supposed caveats and speculations raised in your fact check link. Very funny how they only get raised when the reported case rates are higher in the vaccinated, and not when it was time to kvetch about a "pandemic of the unvaccinated." It even supports my natural immunity theory at one point: > Plus, COVID-19 infections among the unvaccinated in the prior four-week reporting period may be “artificially reducing” the case rate for that group in the latest report. None of these gymnastics would be necessary if the vaccines were genuinely preventing infections at a rate of 6x.