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Wikipedia needs to implement editor rotation the way CPAs are only permitted to audit a public company so many times before another firm must take over the audi

Wikipedia needs to implement editor rotation the way CPAs are only permitted to audit a public company so many times before another firm must take over the audit. It keeps things from getting too cozy. Reddit should probably implement the same policy with mods for the larger subs.

mschuster91 5y ago
The pool of applicants for Wikipedia editors and Reddit mods is already small as it is, and neither of it is paid. Reddit also expressly forbids moderators from profiting off their position (which is why the r/wallstreetbets takeover and the oust of u/zjz was reversed in the first place!), and Wikipedia disallows paid editing entirely. Changing that would completely compromise both projects: Wikipedia, as it would immediately lead to "whoever bids the most controls the narrative" orchestrated by shady PR companies eager to white-wash the history of nations and individuals (again, it is already difficult enough to prevent that with the current model), and Reddit would face similar issues. That said, both are in dire need of more paid and fully transparent support staff that mediates issues as well as takes over the load of policing outright abuse either by mods/admins or by mere contributors. Way too much volunteer time is wasted on dealing with low-effort bullshit (which is partially why I left Wikipedia over a decade ago).
- elliekelly 5y ago
  Who said anything about getting paid and bidding? You’ve been the editor on an article for three years? You’re locked out of making edits for the next year to give someone else the opportunity. A major problem with both Reddit and Wikipedia is that a small number of volunteers exercise an inordinate amount of control over what is ostensibly a “community” owned space/resource.
- mgdlbp 5y ago
  Paid editing of Wikipedia (English, at least) is allowed with disclosure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_di... Edit: The Wikimedia Foundation ToU allows this in all its projects (wikis) and allows project-specific policies: https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en#:~:text=-,Paid%20contributions%20without%20disclosure,- https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en#:~:tex... List of projects with their own policies: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_paid_contribution_disclosure_policies https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_paid_contributio... FAQ: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/FAQ_on_paid_contributions_without_disclosure https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/FAQ_on_paid_con...

mschuster91 5y ago

The pool of applicants for Wikipedia editors and Reddit mods is already small as it is, and neither of it is paid. Reddit also expressly forbids moderators from profiting off their position (which is why the r/wallstreetbets takeover and the oust of u/zjz was reversed in the first place!), and Wikipedia disallows paid editing entirely. Changing that would completely compromise both projects: Wikipedia, as it would immediately lead to "whoever bids the most controls the narrative" orchestrated by shady PR companies eager to white-wash the history of nations and individuals (again, it is already difficult enough to prevent that with the current model), and Reddit would face similar issues. That said, both are in dire need of more paid and fully transparent support staff that mediates issues as well as takes over the load of policing outright abuse either by mods/admins or by mere contributors. Way too much volunteer time is wasted on dealing with low-effort bullshit (which is partially why I left Wikipedia over a decade ago).

elliekelly 5y ago
Who said anything about getting paid and bidding? You’ve been the editor on an article for three years? You’re locked out of making edits for the next year to give someone else the opportunity. A major problem with both Reddit and Wikipedia is that a small number of volunteers exercise an inordinate amount of control over what is ostensibly a “community” owned space/resource.
mgdlbp 5y ago
Paid editing of Wikipedia (English, at least) is allowed with disclosure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_di... Edit: The Wikimedia Foundation ToU allows this in all its projects (wikis) and allows project-specific policies: https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en#:~:text=-,Paid%20contributions%20without%20disclosure,- https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en#:~:tex... List of projects with their own policies: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_paid_contribution_disclosure_policies https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_paid_contributio... FAQ: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/FAQ_on_paid_contributions_without_disclosure https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/FAQ_on_paid_con...