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Wow. I guess I’m really old and remember the days of using the rear view and side mirrors to back up.
by binarymax 5y ago
Wow. I guess I’m really old and remember the days of using the rear view and side mirrors to back up.
- chrisseaton 5y agoNo mirror lets you see right behind the back bumper. It’s dangerous.
- dreamcompiler 5y agoAnd yet drivers managed to (mostly) not back into kids for over 100 years, without rear cameras. You walk around the car before you throw it into reverse. The screens fix the "mostly" problem, but they're not a substitute for driving skill.
- nzmsv 5y agoKids also used to stand in the back while being driven around. I certainly did. Not only were there no car seats, there weren't even seatbelts in the back. Putting kids and their toys in the back of a station wagon for a road trip used to be a thing. Everyone mostly made it out alive, and yet we still have laws against all of the above now, everywhere in the world.
- chrisseaton 5y ago> managed to (mostly) not back into kids for over 100 years, without rear cameras They reckon the mandatory backup camera law saves 95 lives a year.
- dafoex 5y agoGetting out of the car would save 95 lives, too
- chrisseaton 5y ago> Getting out of the car Some cars do have remote-control drive features these days, so you can reverse it from outside the car, but that's a super high-end feature (designed for getting in to and out of extremely tight city parking spaces) and relies on the chips that are in shortage, so that's not a solution.
- dafoex 5y agoWe are but muggles, so I don't think we need to worry about teleporting children appearing in the time it takes you to get back in the car. You know your blind spot is clear and can see where your future blind spot is now.
- chrisseaton 5y agoThis is like arguing against seat-belts because you think you can brace yourself sufficiently.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoSeat-belts are have basically no downsides. Backup cameras trade back over accidents for accidents involving cross traffic.
- grp000 5y agoI don't really remember it being an endemic issue of people getting run over by backing up cars that had that small blindspot. Could have been an issue of unattended children/pets or tall car/short people, but I think it was more a big convenience boost.
- chrisseaton 5y ago> but I think it was more a big convenience boost They don't make laws to force cars to add features for convenience.
- dafoex 5y agoLaws in what country?
- chrisseaton 5y agoThe backup camera? At least the EU and the US.
- dafoex 5y agoI guess Skoda was breaking the law when they made the citigo. That didn't even have radar reversing sensors as standard.
- chrisseaton 5y agoDid it come out before the end of 2021? I'm guessing yes. That's when the EU law comes into effect.
- dafoex 5y agoOh, so this law isn't even in force yet? No wonder I'm not aware of it.
- grp000 5y ago