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Power-tripping mods aren't anything new. My main beef with Discord servers turning into this decade's forums is a lot of useful info is locked up and not disco

by Jach 5y ago

Power-tripping mods aren't anything new. My main beef with Discord servers turning into this decade's forums is a lot of useful info is locked up and not discoverable by search engines.

agumonkey 5y ago
People keep saying this but even on my worst IRC days I've never encountered that much petty-kingdom feeling. Maybe freenode was its own bubble I don't know. On IRC there's this vibe that you don't own anything. You just joined a room first, or someone gave you mod capabilities but it was very freeform in nature.
nullwarp 5y ago
> My main beef with Discord servers turning into this decade's forums is a lot of useful info is locked up and not discoverable by search engines. This to me is by far the worst part of Discord. I'm in a few game mod specific Discord's and there is tons of info in them, but it's so hard to find and get to it might as well not even exist.
city41 5y ago
I reluctantly accepted a Discord server for my project as my users demanded it. Now the people who help out on the project do so in Discord and I hate it. I have to constantly copy the info into a Github issue or discussion otherwise it's pretty much impossible to find again as it scrolls up. There's also a ton of noise in between the contributing comments. I think I'm going to push back and leave the Discord server and tell people to please use Github instead for contributions.
- wintermutestwin 5y ago
  To me, Github is a code repository and Discord is synchronous chat. I personally find both Github and Discord to be much harder platforms to extract information and ask questions than wikis, fourms and subreddits.
- alya 5y ago
  We host the full version of Zulip for free for open-source projects. :) https://zulip.com/for/open-source/ https://zulip.com/for/open-source/
- JoshTriplett 5y ago
  > Now the people who help out on the project do so in Discord and I hate it. I have to constantly copy the info into a Github issue or discussion otherwise it's pretty much impossible to find again as it scrolls up. There's also a ton of noise in between the contributing comments. This is one of the reasons I prefer Zulip to Discord. You get more organization by default, with all conversations happening in threads with subjects, and a tendency to create new threads for new topics. I can actually find information in conversations long afterwards, and cross-link to useful Zulip threads from GitHub or elsewhere.
- theelous3 5y ago
  just copy a link to the discussion and add a pr template that grants a blanket read only invite
- loo 5y ago
  You probably have more people contributing on Discord than you'd have just on Github. Maybe 2, 3 or more times as many. Discord tends to be social in a way Github is not, with lower friction to contribute. And perhaps even a better asynchronous model. I don't discount your frustrations. Maybe a bot that can create GH issues from Discord would help. With rights to use it spread liberally around the community. Tell people you need help getting data into Github, give them a bot so they don't have to context switch, and they'll probably surprise you.
  - city41 5y ago
    You're probably right on the increased contributions. It's definitely a case of pros and cons. I'll look into bots, that's a good idea.
- theshrike79 5y ago
  I'm a 100% sure you can find at least 42 Discord bots that can create and update relevant GitHub issues directly.
vbezhenar 5y ago
Can you use a bot to extract conversations into external website?
jeffchien 5y ago
Not sure about tech, but for pop culture like games, I blame that partially on Wikia/Fandom. I would not wish the horror of scrolling through Wikia websites on a phone upon my worst enemies. It's a lot easier to write and view useful information in Discord.

by Jach 5y ago

Power-tripping mods aren't anything new. My main beef with Discord servers turning into this decade's forums is a lot of useful info is locked up and not discoverable by search engines.

agumonkey 5y ago

People keep saying this but even on my worst IRC days I've never encountered that much petty-kingdom feeling. Maybe freenode was its own bubble I don't know. On IRC there's this vibe that you don't own anything. You just joined a room first, or someone gave you mod capabilities but it was very freeform in nature.

nullwarp 5y ago

> My main beef with Discord servers turning into this decade's forums is a lot of useful info is locked up and not discoverable by search engines. This to me is by far the worst part of Discord. I'm in a few game mod specific Discord's and there is tons of info in them, but it's so hard to find and get to it might as well not even exist.

city41 5y ago

I reluctantly accepted a Discord server for my project as my users demanded it. Now the people who help out on the project do so in Discord and I hate it. I have to constantly copy the info into a Github issue or discussion otherwise it's pretty much impossible to find again as it scrolls up. There's also a ton of noise in between the contributing comments. I think I'm going to push back and leave the Discord server and tell people to please use Github instead for contributions.

wintermutestwin 5y ago
To me, Github is a code repository and Discord is synchronous chat. I personally find both Github and Discord to be much harder platforms to extract information and ask questions than wikis, fourms and subreddits.
alya 5y ago
We host the full version of Zulip for free for open-source projects. :) https://zulip.com/for/open-source/ https://zulip.com/for/open-source/
JoshTriplett 5y ago
> Now the people who help out on the project do so in Discord and I hate it. I have to constantly copy the info into a Github issue or discussion otherwise it's pretty much impossible to find again as it scrolls up. There's also a ton of noise in between the contributing comments. This is one of the reasons I prefer Zulip to Discord. You get more organization by default, with all conversations happening in threads with subjects, and a tendency to create new threads for new topics. I can actually find information in conversations long afterwards, and cross-link to useful Zulip threads from GitHub or elsewhere.
theelous3 5y ago
just copy a link to the discussion and add a pr template that grants a blanket read only invite
loo 5y ago
You probably have more people contributing on Discord than you'd have just on Github. Maybe 2, 3 or more times as many. Discord tends to be social in a way Github is not, with lower friction to contribute. And perhaps even a better asynchronous model. I don't discount your frustrations. Maybe a bot that can create GH issues from Discord would help. With rights to use it spread liberally around the community. Tell people you need help getting data into Github, give them a bot so they don't have to context switch, and they'll probably surprise you.
- city41 5y ago
  You're probably right on the increased contributions. It's definitely a case of pros and cons. I'll look into bots, that's a good idea.
theshrike79 5y ago
I'm a 100% sure you can find at least 42 Discord bots that can create and update relevant GitHub issues directly.

vbezhenar 5y ago

Can you use a bot to extract conversations into external website?

jeffchien 5y ago

Not sure about tech, but for pop culture like games, I blame that partially on Wikia/Fandom. I would not wish the horror of scrolling through Wikia websites on a phone upon my worst enemies. It's a lot easier to write and view useful information in Discord.