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The Search for Alien Tech
- throwaway24124 5y ago“For starters, looking for alien tech on Earth is probably a waste of time. ‘It’s a geologically active place, and, on top of that, life destroys everything quickly here,’ says Wright.” That’s a pretty harsh reaction for someone interested in evidence of alien life. We have good evidence of UAPs (UFOs) that are non-human technology flying around our own atmosphere. I do hope the search for technosignatures finds evidence, but I think that Avi Loeb’s Galileo Project will end up finding incontrovertible evidence soon.
- rhn_mk1 5y agoI think you might be getting downvoted for saying "We have good evidence" while not providing any.
- throwaway24124 5y agoSure, maybe a better word would’ve been we have “circumstantial” evidence of UAPs. Of course the current evidence is not enough to definitively state what these UAP are, or even enough to convince most people on here that UAP are even “real”. However, I would argue there is enough there that further scientific research is worthwhile. Avi Loeb’s Galileo Project costs less than $2 million, and if we can capture evidence of UAP then we can begin to better understand whether these are some sort of craft, or an unknown natural atmospheric phenomena. It’s frustrating to see other scientists against this type of research.
- dorkwood 5y agoAs someone who has no dog in this fight, can I get a link to some of the circumstantial evidence you mentioned? It sounds interesting, at least.
- kataklasm 5y agoCitation needed.
- RicardoVR 5y agoFor Good Evidence you mean low quality photos and videos that proves nothing ? Why an advanced civilization would travel half way across the galaxy to show itself careless in our skies ? I think if some alien civilization already discover us they will : attack or make contact or study from distance without we even know what they were doing.
- dsign 5y agoSolar panels and CFCs in exoplanets? They are too confined to our current development stage here on Earth. Not that civilizations don't use them, ours does. But they are toys for the blink of an eye in cosmological time. The search makes more sense when it is for structures that, by their very function, are designed to last longer and span multiple stellar systems. Communication networks, and more precisely communication hubs next to dark objects moving in trajectories of low curvature--wandering planets and the like. If there are people in advanced alien civilizations, they don't travel in spaceships.
- dave_sullivan 5y agoI don't understand how everyone thinks we'll spread out across the universe when "going inward" kind of makes more sense. We can't go faster than light, but we can simulate things and we keep getting better at that. What if we never really leave and just turn our planet into a big computer so we can live any kind of existence we can imagine (but we can't leave to interfere with others and we can only ever see things around us that already happened). I think we're stuck here in some fundamental ways, and other aliens probably figured this out too so they're living in high density planet sized computers.
- atrus 5y agoWhy not both?
- prox 5y agoSome might say we already done that, and here we are. A grand simulation.
- Kaibeezy 5y agoDiaspora is a hard science fiction novel by the Australian writer Greg Egan which first appeared in print in 1997. ... the citizens, intelligence as disembodied computer software running entirely within simulated reality-based communities known as polises. These represent the majority by far of "humanity" in the novel... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(novel) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(novel) === Fall; or, Dodge in Hell is a 2019 speculative fiction novel by American author Neal Stephenson. The book explores mind uploading to the Cloud... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall;_or,_Dodge_in_Hell https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall;_or,_Dodge_in_Hell
- medo-bear 5y agoits been found :) https://lispers.org/ https://lispers.org/
- xtiansimon 5y agoGood chance for me to mention the excellent book ‘Cosmos and Culture’, again. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25566085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25566085
- Kaibeezy 5y agoLately I’ve been binging on live solo performances from early in the careers of songwriter/musicians who went on to bigger, flashier things. (Elton John, Old Grey Whistle Test, 1971; Greg Lake, Cal Jam, 1974; etc.) A recurring comment has been the expression of gratitude to have been alive in the same “blip” of time as the creator/performer and to have seen them perform during their prime. There’s a sense that in the history of the creation of music, the living presence of the creator/performer wasn’t huge until recently, surely due to acceleration of distribution and access via broadcast media, and remained so for a decade or two (bobby sox, fainting at the sight of Elvis, Beatlemania, etc.). Then, as music has become more mediated through electronics (click, autotune, synth, DAW, etc., etc.) arguably the importance of the presence of the creator/performer themselves has increasingly been buffered, muffled or otherwise reduced. This helps me understand SETI and the Fermi Paradox. We’re not just looking for music, we’re looking for the pure signal of Elton between Reg and Captain Fantastic, maybe a 3 year window out of his 60 as a performer, and out of billions of years on the cosmic timeline. Before that he wasn’t on the radar; after it he became part of the background noise.
- uyt 5y agoLisztomania was actually coined in 1844!
- jancsika 5y ago> There’s a sense that in the history of the creation of music, the living presence of the creator/performer wasn’t huge until recently, surely due to acceleration of distribution and access via broadcast media, and remained so for a decade or two (bobby sox, fainting at the sight of Elvis, Beatlemania, etc.). You might read up on how far J.S. Bach walked to listen to Buxtehude perform/improvise on the organ.