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This actually terrified me, as Britain being willing to give up the commonwealth when the Queen dies may mean serious contests for who gets to write new constit

This actually terrified me, as Britain being willing to give up the commonwealth when the Queen dies may mean serious contests for who gets to write new constitutions. It's not so much a matter of removing the Queen as head of state as unsealing the document, so someone says while you are there, we need this, and we will fight you if we don't get it. You see how this escalates immediately, and all together within months of the Queen's death. What are the odds of over 50 countries ever trying to rewrite their constitutions in a lifetime, and then again what are they to do that simultaneously ? Absurd, impossible odds, total black swan. Except if the Queen dies. I can only hope it will be mostly peaceful?

muststopmyths 5y ago
>What are the odds of over 50 countries ever trying to rewrite their constitutions in a lifetime, Why would 50 countries be rewriting their constitutions ? Only 16 "realms" of the Commonwealth actually have the Queen as head of state.
- motohagiography 5y ago
  I knew there was something dumb about that, and meant to get it in the edit but walked away. Barring the extra dumb part, constitutional conflicts can be contagious, was my point.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> This actually terrified me, as Britain being willing to give up the commonwealth when the Queen dies may mean serious contests for who gets to write new constitutions No one is talking about terminating the Commonwealth. Nor does Britain qua Britain have any role in any of this. These are separate constitutional monarchies vested in the same individual but with entirely separate governments. Britain already gave up authority over them when they became independent. > It's not so much a matter of removing the Queen as head of state as unsealing the document In many cases, the documents have been revised multiple times in recent decades. They aren't Holy Writ. And while a less popular monarch may accelerate Republicanism, its unlikely to trigger a simultaneous rush for the exits. > someone says while you are there, we need this, and we will fight you if we don't get it. You see how this escalates immediately, and all together within months of the Queen's death. I see what you arr imagining, but I don't see it as particularly likely. > What are the odds of over 50 countries ever trying to rewrite their constitutions in a lifetime, Pretty high. In fact, pretty much every country on Earth, of which therr are significantly more than 50, has revised their Constituion in living memory, most have done so in the last 20 years. [0] > and then again what are they to do that simultaneously ? Again, there are probably more than 50 working on revisions at any given time. Not unusual at all. > I can only hope it will be mostly peaceful? Why wouldn't it be? The (much fewer than 50) countries sharing a monarch with the UK are largely ones that have revised their Constitutions peacefully multiple times recently. [0] https://comparativeconstitutionsproject.org/chronology/ https://comparativeconstitutionsproject.org/chronology/

muststopmyths 5y ago

>What are the odds of over 50 countries ever trying to rewrite their constitutions in a lifetime, Why would 50 countries be rewriting their constitutions ? Only 16 "realms" of the Commonwealth actually have the Queen as head of state.

motohagiography 5y ago
I knew there was something dumb about that, and meant to get it in the edit but walked away. Barring the extra dumb part, constitutional conflicts can be contagious, was my point.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> This actually terrified me, as Britain being willing to give up the commonwealth when the Queen dies may mean serious contests for who gets to write new constitutions No one is talking about terminating the Commonwealth. Nor does Britain qua Britain have any role in any of this. These are separate constitutional monarchies vested in the same individual but with entirely separate governments. Britain already gave up authority over them when they became independent. > It's not so much a matter of removing the Queen as head of state as unsealing the document In many cases, the documents have been revised multiple times in recent decades. They aren't Holy Writ. And while a less popular monarch may accelerate Republicanism, its unlikely to trigger a simultaneous rush for the exits. > someone says while you are there, we need this, and we will fight you if we don't get it. You see how this escalates immediately, and all together within months of the Queen's death. I see what you arr imagining, but I don't see it as particularly likely. > What are the odds of over 50 countries ever trying to rewrite their constitutions in a lifetime, Pretty high. In fact, pretty much every country on Earth, of which therr are significantly more than 50, has revised their Constituion in living memory, most have done so in the last 20 years. [0] > and then again what are they to do that simultaneously ? Again, there are probably more than 50 working on revisions at any given time. Not unusual at all. > I can only hope it will be mostly peaceful? Why wouldn't it be? The (much fewer than 50) countries sharing a monarch with the UK are largely ones that have revised their Constitutions peacefully multiple times recently. [0] https://comparativeconstitutionsproject.org/chronology/ https://comparativeconstitutionsproject.org/chronology/