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What tools do you think would work? I've been writing a Reddit clone that uses elected moderators, statistical sampling, and referendums to estimate the result

What tools do you think would work? I've been writing a Reddit clone that uses elected moderators, statistical sampling, and referendums to estimate the result of referendums. I'm curious what tools you think would work well.

khimaros 5y ago
it sounds like Secure Scuttlebutt
- tikwidd 5y ago
  A big downside with the Scuttlebutt system from a user perspective is that once I post something, it's out there forever. The best I can do is ask my friends to delete their copy of my post.
s3tz 5y ago
Full transparency of how the system classifies a given person, person is fully annonymous and it's based on reputation alone. Then let ME decide the parameters of what I want to see. Treat it like a decision support system for content. Can be gamed for sure, but give new accounts the base defaults only (like certain subreddits do) and it would eliminate most of this since the barrier to abusing it is very high. Also, teach users that they might sometimes see something weird or bad, be transparent with them. This shielding behavior is like a helicopter parent soccer mom "protecting" their kid. It's annoying there and it's dangerous here.
bullen 5y ago
Can you link to it?
- evandwight 5y ago
  It's not done yet. There's a discord link if you want to chat about how to improve it. https://efficientdemocracy.com https://efficientdemocracy.com New name needed
  - stevenroose 5y ago
    Please be aware of Lemmy, the ActivityPub-compatible Reddit clone. It's in a quite far stadium of functionality, but I'm sure extra development on their moderation systems would be more than welcome!
  - bullen 5y ago
    I also made a reddit clone, but on top of my own HTTP server and database: http://talk.binarytask.com http://talk.binarytask.com Democracy only works when you have more energy available than people and that is about to not be the case after 200 years of extracting sunshine from the earths crust. The only thing we're efficient at is to waste energy! Also "sign in with google"?
    - evandwight 5y ago
      > http://talk.binarytask.com http://talk.binarytask.com Your own http server/database!?! Do you mean you implemented them from scratch? I'm just using nginx/expressjs & postgres. Edit: rupy! interesting! Does ssl kill it's efficiency? > Democracy only works ... Energy limitations seem beyond my lifetime. I just want to see how to run a community based on the will of it's members. Efficiently using their time. > sign in with google It's not ideal. I originally implemented my own authentication, however implementing it "securely" is a huge task. My main problem is unknown unknowns. Even big companies have non-perfect authentication, like leaking emails during recovery/login. If the site gets any traction I'll expand the authorisation options. What do you think I could do to improve the site?
      - bullen 5y ago
        HTTPS is garbage, but you can put a HAProxy with SSL in front of it if you want to waste energy... :D I made my own secure user handling using this: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2289 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2289

khimaros 5y ago

it sounds like Secure Scuttlebutt

tikwidd 5y ago
A big downside with the Scuttlebutt system from a user perspective is that once I post something, it's out there forever. The best I can do is ask my friends to delete their copy of my post.

s3tz 5y ago

Full transparency of how the system classifies a given person, person is fully annonymous and it's based on reputation alone. Then let ME decide the parameters of what I want to see. Treat it like a decision support system for content. Can be gamed for sure, but give new accounts the base defaults only (like certain subreddits do) and it would eliminate most of this since the barrier to abusing it is very high. Also, teach users that they might sometimes see something weird or bad, be transparent with them. This shielding behavior is like a helicopter parent soccer mom "protecting" their kid. It's annoying there and it's dangerous here.

bullen 5y ago

Can you link to it?

evandwight 5y ago
It's not done yet. There's a discord link if you want to chat about how to improve it. https://efficientdemocracy.com https://efficientdemocracy.com New name needed
- stevenroose 5y ago
  Please be aware of Lemmy, the ActivityPub-compatible Reddit clone. It's in a quite far stadium of functionality, but I'm sure extra development on their moderation systems would be more than welcome!
- bullen 5y ago
  I also made a reddit clone, but on top of my own HTTP server and database: http://talk.binarytask.com http://talk.binarytask.com Democracy only works when you have more energy available than people and that is about to not be the case after 200 years of extracting sunshine from the earths crust. The only thing we're efficient at is to waste energy! Also "sign in with google"?
  - evandwight 5y ago
    > http://talk.binarytask.com http://talk.binarytask.com Your own http server/database!?! Do you mean you implemented them from scratch? I'm just using nginx/expressjs & postgres. Edit: rupy! interesting! Does ssl kill it's efficiency? > Democracy only works ... Energy limitations seem beyond my lifetime. I just want to see how to run a community based on the will of it's members. Efficiently using their time. > sign in with google It's not ideal. I originally implemented my own authentication, however implementing it "securely" is a huge task. My main problem is unknown unknowns. Even big companies have non-perfect authentication, like leaking emails during recovery/login. If the site gets any traction I'll expand the authorisation options. What do you think I could do to improve the site?
    - bullen 5y ago
      HTTPS is garbage, but you can put a HAProxy with SSL in front of it if you want to waste energy... :D I made my own secure user handling using this: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2289 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2289