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>Right - agreed - (you'll get downvoted here though - HN moving towards the reddit orthodoxy model vs the discussion model). >Its super off-putting Nothing ab

>Right - agreed - (you'll get downvoted here though - HN moving towards the reddit orthodoxy model vs the discussion model). >Its super off-putting Nothing about any of your comments on this topic has demonstrated you're the least bit interested in having a discussion.

whoknowswhat11 5y ago
Nothing has made it seem like anyone actually looks at any of this themselves. I've been following this a while now. Open a new incognitio window and go here: https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en Do not click accept on anything. Check your cookies. Tracking cookies have been set before consent. Many on HN are ranting about how something like this is illegal or that the GDPR is easy. The answer is that the GDPR is NOT easy. That some would say that setting tracking cookies on landing without consent is not legal, others that it is, and the EU is all over on enforcement. If you browse an EU website, they track you without any explicit consent. I prefer this approach personally, all their websites used to have a modal pop-up, you could not move forward until you consented. Between phone, desktop etc etc, SO annoying. I'm sure it turned a lot of folks off GDPR, so they cheat with this to try and avoid annoying people (as many others do).
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- Nicksil 5y ago
  >Nothing has made it seem like anyone actually looks at any of this themselves. I've been following this a while now. This is you, mate. Look through your comments here; almost all are aggressive, confrontational, and toxic. Some of your comments make assertions with no supporting information and are subsequently dispelled. I can't tell if you're just trolling or are otherwise oblivious to your behavior. If you demand better discourse, practice it. >Open a new incognitio window and go here: https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en >Do not click accept on anything. >Check your cookies. "Incognito" mode (or whatever one's browser may call it) is irrelevant in this scenario. This mode of browsing simply eliminates a subset of browsing data upon exit. Such a mode is useful for quickly navigating to some website you don't want showing up in your history or maintaining a session and that's about it.
  - whoknowswhat11 5y ago
    Sorry for not being clearer - I will try to spell things out better. "Incognito" mode (or whatever one's browser may call it) is irrelevant in this scenario." No it is not. When looking at what a website does, if you browse in your regular session you may be bringing over a very large cookie store, visit history, prior acceptance of cookie popups. The reason I suggest using a new incognito session is because you start these sessions fresh from a cookie perspective, and the site you are visiting should see you as a new user and re-prompt for cookie acceptance etc. Then you can easily see what they are doing. It's really actually interesting being lectured and yelled at by "experts" here. I think the GDPR is sort of a bandwagon thing at this point. A fair number of relatively uninformed folks on the issues / technical side jumping on and making a set of fairly strong and often uninformed claims? You literally have folks saying GDPR is not complicated, and literally on the same threads making plenty of contradicotry claims (ie, totally illegal to not have a deny all button, totally banned to track before acceptance, ok to track before acceptance (default opt-in vs opt-out) etc. The folks claiming GDPR is easy don't realize how big a consulting industry has sprung up to try and help folks trying to get it right. I mean, tracking rules for the cookie acceptance cookies - is like perfectly up these consultants thing because they make so much money off all this.

whoknowswhat11 5y ago

Nothing has made it seem like anyone actually looks at any of this themselves. I've been following this a while now. Open a new incognitio window and go here: https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en Do not click accept on anything. Check your cookies. Tracking cookies have been set before consent. Many on HN are ranting about how something like this is illegal or that the GDPR is easy. The answer is that the GDPR is NOT easy. That some would say that setting tracking cookies on landing without consent is not legal, others that it is, and the EU is all over on enforcement. If you browse an EU website, they track you without any explicit consent. I prefer this approach personally, all their websites used to have a modal pop-up, you could not move forward until you consented. Between phone, desktop etc etc, SO annoying. I'm sure it turned a lot of folks off GDPR, so they cheat with this to try and avoid annoying people (as many others do).

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Nicksil 5y ago
>Nothing has made it seem like anyone actually looks at any of this themselves. I've been following this a while now. This is you, mate. Look through your comments here; almost all are aggressive, confrontational, and toxic. Some of your comments make assertions with no supporting information and are subsequently dispelled. I can't tell if you're just trolling or are otherwise oblivious to your behavior. If you demand better discourse, practice it. >Open a new incognitio window and go here: https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/privacy-policy/europa-analytics_en >Do not click accept on anything. >Check your cookies. "Incognito" mode (or whatever one's browser may call it) is irrelevant in this scenario. This mode of browsing simply eliminates a subset of browsing data upon exit. Such a mode is useful for quickly navigating to some website you don't want showing up in your history or maintaining a session and that's about it.
- whoknowswhat11 5y ago
  Sorry for not being clearer - I will try to spell things out better. "Incognito" mode (or whatever one's browser may call it) is irrelevant in this scenario." No it is not. When looking at what a website does, if you browse in your regular session you may be bringing over a very large cookie store, visit history, prior acceptance of cookie popups. The reason I suggest using a new incognito session is because you start these sessions fresh from a cookie perspective, and the site you are visiting should see you as a new user and re-prompt for cookie acceptance etc. Then you can easily see what they are doing. It's really actually interesting being lectured and yelled at by "experts" here. I think the GDPR is sort of a bandwagon thing at this point. A fair number of relatively uninformed folks on the issues / technical side jumping on and making a set of fairly strong and often uninformed claims? You literally have folks saying GDPR is not complicated, and literally on the same threads making plenty of contradicotry claims (ie, totally illegal to not have a deny all button, totally banned to track before acceptance, ok to track before acceptance (default opt-in vs opt-out) etc. The folks claiming GDPR is easy don't realize how big a consulting industry has sprung up to try and help folks trying to get it right. I mean, tracking rules for the cookie acceptance cookies - is like perfectly up these consultants thing because they make so much money off all this.