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So no we have the Pfizer vaccine (which I got) who cuts the risk of both catching the virus and the risk of severe complication by a lot (forgot the number but

So no we have the Pfizer vaccine (which I got) who cuts the risk of both catching the virus and the risk of severe complication by a lot (forgot the number but it's big) and in addition to that we now have Pfizer oral medication that can be given to positive cases and which reduces both hospitalization and death risk by 85%. When can life go back to normal?

zapdrive 5y ago
Lol, you think life will go back to normal? That's cute. Just like how airport security went back to normal a few years after 9/11? The powers of the world are not going to let this pandemic go to waste. There's a lot of money to be made and a lot of freedoms to be trampled.
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It makes discussions predictable, tedious, and nasty. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been posting like this a lot. Can you please stop that? It's not what this site is for, we ban such accounts, and I don't want to ban you. If you'd please review the guidelines and fix this, we'd appreciate it.
thedougd 5y ago
If the majority of the population is willing to use either, than I expect so.
whateveracct 5y ago
What's so different now exactly? I can go to restaurants, the store, the movies, fly. I gotta wear a mask indoors to some degree, so I guess we're at like 99% normal.
- topoftheforts 5y ago
  Have you tried travelling abroad? It’s still much more complicated than it was, you have to check both countries requirements, spend money on tests, fill additional forms
- mmcnl 5y ago
  It's impossible to plan anything further than 2 weeks ahead with a relative certainty that things will go through. How is that 99% normal? The uncertainties around things considered "normal" is extremely high. Wearing a mask is not normal, yet still very common (and mandated again as of today in The Netherlands). Going through extensive testing and requiring proof of vaccinations for a thing as simple as going to the zoo is also not 99% normal. I have two trips abroad planned in the next 3 months, yet chances are high that I won't go to either due to external circumstances. People with potentially life threatening health issues such as brain tumors are seeing their treatments postponed. Excess deaths are still very high in many countries, even with high vaccination rates. Things are 1% normal, not 99% normal.
gilbetron 5y ago
Old normal is gone and will never come back - instead we are building a new normal, but it will take at least another year or two to solidify. It probably will be similar to what we had before. It's kind of like after 9/11 - we wanted things back to normal, too, but that old normal never returned.
thenewnormal 5y ago
I feel sorry for those in the US. You have made a miserable new normal for yourselves (and, as you say, despite everyone dutifully wearing masks and getting vaccinated, and now having the option of an effective treatment).

zapdrive 5y ago

Lol, you think life will go back to normal? That's cute. Just like how airport security went back to normal a few years after 9/11? The powers of the world are not going to let this pandemic go to waste. There's a lot of money to be made and a lot of freedoms to be trampled.

dang 5y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It makes discussions predictable, tedious, and nasty. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been posting like this a lot. Can you please stop that? It's not what this site is for, we ban such accounts, and I don't want to ban you. If you'd please review the guidelines and fix this, we'd appreciate it.

thedougd 5y ago

If the majority of the population is willing to use either, than I expect so.

whateveracct 5y ago

What's so different now exactly? I can go to restaurants, the store, the movies, fly. I gotta wear a mask indoors to some degree, so I guess we're at like 99% normal.

topoftheforts 5y ago
Have you tried travelling abroad? It’s still much more complicated than it was, you have to check both countries requirements, spend money on tests, fill additional forms
mmcnl 5y ago
It's impossible to plan anything further than 2 weeks ahead with a relative certainty that things will go through. How is that 99% normal? The uncertainties around things considered "normal" is extremely high. Wearing a mask is not normal, yet still very common (and mandated again as of today in The Netherlands). Going through extensive testing and requiring proof of vaccinations for a thing as simple as going to the zoo is also not 99% normal. I have two trips abroad planned in the next 3 months, yet chances are high that I won't go to either due to external circumstances. People with potentially life threatening health issues such as brain tumors are seeing their treatments postponed. Excess deaths are still very high in many countries, even with high vaccination rates. Things are 1% normal, not 99% normal.

gilbetron 5y ago

Old normal is gone and will never come back - instead we are building a new normal, but it will take at least another year or two to solidify. It probably will be similar to what we had before. It's kind of like after 9/11 - we wanted things back to normal, too, but that old normal never returned.

thenewnormal 5y ago

I feel sorry for those in the US. You have made a miserable new normal for yourselves (and, as you say, despite everyone dutifully wearing masks and getting vaccinated, and now having the option of an effective treatment).