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> Tracking is part of a larger debate about access to college. Under the current system, students who are not placed in accelerated courses by middle school may

> Tracking is part of a larger debate about access to college. Under the current system, students who are not placed in accelerated courses by middle school may never get the opportunity to take calculus, which has long been an informal gatekeeper for acceptance to selective schools. > > According to data from the Education Department, calculus is not even offered in most schools that serve a large number of Black and Latino students. Expecting but then not providing opportunity to learn isn’t a great model. And, this problem is not universal for all people attending those schools. The fact that Black and Latino folks are statistically more impacted is important, yet not necessary for wishing to improve.

skyde 5y ago
why make it about race? Those school also have student that are not black and latino. There are 2 distinct problems: 1- School in poor neighborhood don’t offer calculus 2- Poor neighborhood have more Black and latino. Changing math for everyone or reserving spot for black and latino in university is not the solution it will just make the USA less educated compared to other country. there is only one real solution are: 1- Make sure school in poor neighborhood have enough funding to offer calculus 2- Stop telling minorities they are not smart enough and couldn’t succeed if they tried. Asian parent know kids are smart enough to learn math and just need to work hard! that’s why they send kid to tutoring school. And that’s why asian are good at school even if they are a minority
- syspec 5y ago
  That’s my main problem with it, it’s basically segregating these kids based solely on race. It’s literally enforcing racial stereotypes onto them “for their own good”, telling them to accept it as fact. It’s frankly ridiculous
- ViViDboarder 5y ago
  Why is calculus more important than statistics or data science? Frankly, I think that it’s far more valuable for people to learn stars and data science as they provide far more real world benefits over calculus. Also, who is telling minorities that they aren’t smart enough? The argument made is that, despite their aptitude, they are not given the opportunities. And again, this is indeed relevant regardless of race and should be a concern even if the schools disproportionately impacted weren’t minority majority. All that said, I think your point about funding is the bigger issue. Even if this change happens, how will these schools suddenly be able to offer stats when they couldn’t offer calc?
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  - skyde 5y ago
    The assumption is that math teacher at poor school are not as good because poor school can’t afford better teacher! if student have bad teacher in algebra class they can’t reach the level needed for calculus. And if not enough student are good enough to take calculus the school simply decide to cut it.

skyde 5y ago

why make it about race? Those school also have student that are not black and latino. There are 2 distinct problems: 1- School in poor neighborhood don’t offer calculus 2- Poor neighborhood have more Black and latino. Changing math for everyone or reserving spot for black and latino in university is not the solution it will just make the USA less educated compared to other country. there is only one real solution are: 1- Make sure school in poor neighborhood have enough funding to offer calculus 2- Stop telling minorities they are not smart enough and couldn’t succeed if they tried. Asian parent know kids are smart enough to learn math and just need to work hard! that’s why they send kid to tutoring school. And that’s why asian are good at school even if they are a minority

syspec 5y ago
That’s my main problem with it, it’s basically segregating these kids based solely on race. It’s literally enforcing racial stereotypes onto them “for their own good”, telling them to accept it as fact. It’s frankly ridiculous
ViViDboarder 5y ago
Why is calculus more important than statistics or data science? Frankly, I think that it’s far more valuable for people to learn stars and data science as they provide far more real world benefits over calculus. Also, who is telling minorities that they aren’t smart enough? The argument made is that, despite their aptitude, they are not given the opportunities. And again, this is indeed relevant regardless of race and should be a concern even if the schools disproportionately impacted weren’t minority majority. All that said, I think your point about funding is the bigger issue. Even if this change happens, how will these schools suddenly be able to offer stats when they couldn’t offer calc?
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- skyde 5y ago
  The assumption is that math teacher at poor school are not as good because poor school can’t afford better teacher! if student have bad teacher in algebra class they can’t reach the level needed for calculus. And if not enough student are good enough to take calculus the school simply decide to cut it.