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The long term risks for either is not knowable. Hospitalisation is an acute scenario that can lead to death, negating any concerns about the long-term in the f

The long term risks for either is not knowable. Hospitalisation is an acute scenario that can lead to death, negating any concerns about the long-term in the first place. The short term risk of hospitalisation in the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated is well-known. Given what we know, it still makes sense to get vaccinated, and it may make sense for those at risk of hospitalisation (vaccinated or otherwise) to take an antiviral proven to cut the risk of hospitalisation.

DownGoat 5y ago
Actually the long term risk of the covid-19 vaccines is well understood. You will not get a side effect from the vaccines in a year from now. For all of the vaccines created for any disease, the longest recorded period between taking the vaccine and side effects presenting is 6 weeks. 3.1 billion people are fully vaccinated for covid-19, many of them have been for longer than 6 weeks.
- penultimatebro 5y ago
  Ha ha, funny satire. Wait, reading this again... you’re serious? So do you have an actual time machine and can go to the future and know side effects a year from now? The long term effects are unknowable. This mRNA technology is brand new so please don’t compare that to a traditional vaccine.
  - kickopotomus 5y ago
    The technology is not brand new. It has been used in labs for decades. This is just the first time it has been used in a drug for humans. All traces of the vaccine leave your body within days of receiving the shot.
- Seredo 5y ago
  In Norway, some children developed narcolepsy after being vaccinated with Pandemrix. The average time from vaccine (or influensa) until developing narcolepsy was 8 months. https://www.fhi.no/nyheter/2017/pandemi/ https://www.fhi.no/nyheter/2017/pandemi/ (in norwegian)
- robocat 5y ago
  > You will not get a side effect from the vaccines in a year from now There are possible severe negative effects due to vaccination, even if there are zero medical side effects. Herd vulnerability could cause widespread harm - there is a monoculture of immune responses and monocultures have vulnerabilities. I agree it's unlikely to have severe long term downsides, and the short-term gains are very significant. Note that I'm mostly pro vaccination.
- apineda 5y ago
  I understand what well understood means but typically that also involves long term human clinical trials, and for a good reason.

DownGoat 5y ago

Actually the long term risk of the covid-19 vaccines is well understood. You will not get a side effect from the vaccines in a year from now. For all of the vaccines created for any disease, the longest recorded period between taking the vaccine and side effects presenting is 6 weeks. 3.1 billion people are fully vaccinated for covid-19, many of them have been for longer than 6 weeks.

penultimatebro 5y ago
Ha ha, funny satire. Wait, reading this again... you’re serious? So do you have an actual time machine and can go to the future and know side effects a year from now? The long term effects are unknowable. This mRNA technology is brand new so please don’t compare that to a traditional vaccine.
- kickopotomus 5y ago
  The technology is not brand new. It has been used in labs for decades. This is just the first time it has been used in a drug for humans. All traces of the vaccine leave your body within days of receiving the shot.
Seredo 5y ago
In Norway, some children developed narcolepsy after being vaccinated with Pandemrix. The average time from vaccine (or influensa) until developing narcolepsy was 8 months. https://www.fhi.no/nyheter/2017/pandemi/ https://www.fhi.no/nyheter/2017/pandemi/ (in norwegian)
robocat 5y ago
> You will not get a side effect from the vaccines in a year from now There are possible severe negative effects due to vaccination, even if there are zero medical side effects. Herd vulnerability could cause widespread harm - there is a monoculture of immune responses and monocultures have vulnerabilities. I agree it's unlikely to have severe long term downsides, and the short-term gains are very significant. Note that I'm mostly pro vaccination.
apineda 5y ago
I understand what well understood means but typically that also involves long term human clinical trials, and for a good reason.