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True fact: proper sleep/wake on lid close is probably 40% of why I switched from Windows to Mac in about 1999 -- and that was when the Mac was on OS 9, not the

True fact: proper sleep/wake on lid close is probably 40% of why I switched from Windows to Mac in about 1999 -- and that was when the Mac was on OS 9, not the BSD-based OSX. I can't imagine going to a system where it wouldn't work. That's baseline, out of the box functionality for me.

emidln 5y ago
I thought this was a dealbreaker until I installed an SSD in my laptop in the mid to late 00s. When my machine is fully graphical in less than 5 seconds, I just didn't care. My browser restored tabs, my editor restored everything, my desktop restored windows. It was a complete non-issue as long as the machine could cold-boot quickly. As an upside, my machine also no longer overheated if I forgot to long press the power off prior to putting it in my backpack. I configured my current laptop to screen off on lid close and to shutdown after 5 minutes. I'm probably just weird.
- blacksmith_tb 5y ago
  Maybe weird, but not alone - I have a couple of Ubuntu laptops (with SSDs) and I generally just shut them all the way down and boot back up if I am taking them anywhere / not using them for a while.
- bigmadwolf 5y ago
  Have also had a cooked laptop in the past (in my case it was a Mac). A few years later when using a Linux laptop I decided to disabled sleep entirely but left hibernation available instead [1]. This means that desktop environments will not show the sleep option at all, instead they will just show the hibernation option. Also I have the laptop set to automatically hibernate if it is running on battery power and the lid gets closed. Have also configured it to ignore any lid open events therefore it will only wake when the power button gets pressed. Waking from hibernation isn't quite as quick as from sleep but its not that bad and I've never had a cooked laptop again! [1] https://www.tecmint.com/disable-suspend-and-hibernation-in-linux/ https://www.tecmint.com/disable-suspend-and-hibernation-in-l...
donio 5y ago
The "proper" lid close gave us the image of engineers walking around the office with the screen slightly propped open to keep their Macs from going to sleep. Yeah I know that there are ways around it but apparently it was too much to figure out for most.
pmontra 5y ago
I press the resume/suspensd button on my laptop. I explicitly disabled the suspend and resume on lid close. Maybe I suspend and don't close the lid (hot machine after something CPU intensive) or maybe I fail to fully close it? A button is safer.
- julianlam 5y ago
  Your comment made me realize that I've unintentionally adapted my behaviour to do the same thing. I press the power button, and wait for the power LED to turn off before I close the lid. Had a laptop stay on twice in a bag... never again.

emidln 5y ago

I thought this was a dealbreaker until I installed an SSD in my laptop in the mid to late 00s. When my machine is fully graphical in less than 5 seconds, I just didn't care. My browser restored tabs, my editor restored everything, my desktop restored windows. It was a complete non-issue as long as the machine could cold-boot quickly. As an upside, my machine also no longer overheated if I forgot to long press the power off prior to putting it in my backpack. I configured my current laptop to screen off on lid close and to shutdown after 5 minutes. I'm probably just weird.

blacksmith_tb 5y ago
Maybe weird, but not alone - I have a couple of Ubuntu laptops (with SSDs) and I generally just shut them all the way down and boot back up if I am taking them anywhere / not using them for a while.
bigmadwolf 5y ago
Have also had a cooked laptop in the past (in my case it was a Mac). A few years later when using a Linux laptop I decided to disabled sleep entirely but left hibernation available instead [1]. This means that desktop environments will not show the sleep option at all, instead they will just show the hibernation option. Also I have the laptop set to automatically hibernate if it is running on battery power and the lid gets closed. Have also configured it to ignore any lid open events therefore it will only wake when the power button gets pressed. Waking from hibernation isn't quite as quick as from sleep but its not that bad and I've never had a cooked laptop again! [1] https://www.tecmint.com/disable-suspend-and-hibernation-in-linux/ https://www.tecmint.com/disable-suspend-and-hibernation-in-l...

donio 5y ago

The "proper" lid close gave us the image of engineers walking around the office with the screen slightly propped open to keep their Macs from going to sleep. Yeah I know that there are ways around it but apparently it was too much to figure out for most.

pmontra 5y ago

I press the resume/suspensd button on my laptop. I explicitly disabled the suspend and resume on lid close. Maybe I suspend and don't close the lid (hot machine after something CPU intensive) or maybe I fail to fully close it? A button is safer.

julianlam 5y ago
Your comment made me realize that I've unintentionally adapted my behaviour to do the same thing. I press the power button, and wait for the power LED to turn off before I close the lid. Had a laptop stay on twice in a bag... never again.