>>I did, my point was more that the Intel and AMD TDPs aren't really super directly comparable because they both use different formulae to compute the numbers.

>>I did, my point was more that the Intel and AMD TDPs aren't really super directly comparable because they both use different formulae to compute the numbers. Why do these formulas matter though, if we know, without a doubt, that a fully loaded 5900X/5950X will just sit at 150W usage, but the new 12th Gen i9 at full load sits at 250W. That's not going by what Intel says or what's on the box, that's actual measured power usage which has been now confirmed by reviews. So yes, sure, let's not compare the given numbers in the spec - but real life numbers do back it up this time.