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Do you believe that food is just magically produced and just appears in the store shelves? Lockdowns impact the entire system, and proclaiming some jobs as "e

by syshum 5y ago

Do you believe that food is just magically produced and just appears in the store shelves? Lockdowns impact the entire system, and proclaiming some jobs as "essential" and other as "non-essential" is the highest form of arrogance as all employment is essential to the business that employs the person or they would not have the employee. Supply Chain's are very fragile, as the world has come to see, you toss a monkey wrench in the center of that by have governments attempt a top down mandated lock down where they deiced by fiat who should work, who should not, well you are going to have a bad time. As history has shown now. Central Planning never works, never has worked, and never will work. People need to stop trying it

EdwardDiego 5y ago
> Do you believe that food is just magically produced and just appears in the store shelves? Yes, that's obviously what I believe. Thanks for the condescension, I see we're off to a great start. > Lockdowns impact the entire system, and proclaiming some jobs as "essential" and other as "non-essential" is the highest form of arrogance as all employment is essential to the business that employs the person or they would not have the employee. Okay, but presumably a smart government would decide that all jobs involved in the production and transportation of foodstuffs are essential. I know my country's government did. > Supply Chain's are very fragile, as the world has come to see, you toss a monkey wrench in the center of that by have governments attempt a top down mandated lock down where they deiced by fiat who should work, who should not, well you are going to have a bad time. And how do you distinguish the monkey wrench of "government fiat" from the monkey wrench of "lots of people who work in the supply chain getting sick"? https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2020/covid-19-in-us-poultry-plants/index.html https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2020/covid-19-in-us-po... > Central Planning never works, never has worked, and never will work. People need to stop trying it I haven't seen any evidence that anyone tried to implement Central Planning, but I'm happy to read any you might have.
- syshum 5y ago
  >>Okay, but presumably a smart government would decide that all jobs involved in the production and transportation of foodstuffs are essential. I know my country's government did. That is the folly of this way of thinking, all jobs are interlinked, you can not just extract jobs from the market and not have an impact. The person that cooks breakfast for the truck driver that picks up the food from the warehouse that stored the food that came from the factory that made the food from ingredients from a farm field is just as "essential" as ever other person in the chain. As is the IT worker that works on a helpdesk for the credit card processor that service the restaurant that truck driver above stops at every morning As the manufacture of the monitor stand that the IT worker uses to hold up their monitor to enable them to service the Restaurant of the truck driver... and on and on we go down the chain.. Look up I, Pencil[1] for a better understanding of this Government just pulling out people they claim are "not essential" to food production or other essential things is foolish because all jobs are essential. Period. non-essential jobs do not exist, and any government claiming there is, and claiming they are smart enough to make that determination should never be trusted with anything. >I haven't seen any evidence that anyone tried to implement Central Planning The very nature of choosing who can work, who cant, what is jobs are essential, what jobs are not is Central planning [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYO3tOqDISE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYO3tOqDISE
  - EdwardDiego 5y ago
    > The person that cooks breakfast for the truck driver ...the truck driver can make breakfast at home. > As is the IT worker that works on a helpdesk for the credit card processor that service the restaurant that truck driver above stops at every morning The truck driver probably shouldn't during a pandemic. > Government just pulling out people they claim are "not essential" Again, if you have actual evidence of this, I'll read it man, but otherwise I've got no time for your anarchocapitalist rants.
    - abduhl 5y ago
      You're right of course, it's the lazy lower class that is causing the supply chain issues. If only the truck driver would make his own breakfast at 4AM so he can be at the yard by 4:30AM so that he can work 14 hours (because, as we've seen in the past week, the trucking industry isn't bursting with employees) and then be home by 7PM. Should he cook his own lunch too? Maybe he can wake up at 3:30AM for that. What about his dinner? Maybe he can wake up at 3AM. Can he read his kids bedtime stories? Maybe he can wake up at 2:30AM so that he has time at the end of the day. After all, he has been deemed essential.

by syshum 5y ago

EdwardDiego 5y ago

> Do you believe that food is just magically produced and just appears in the store shelves? Yes, that's obviously what I believe. Thanks for the condescension, I see we're off to a great start. > Lockdowns impact the entire system, and proclaiming some jobs as "essential" and other as "non-essential" is the highest form of arrogance as all employment is essential to the business that employs the person or they would not have the employee. Okay, but presumably a smart government would decide that all jobs involved in the production and transportation of foodstuffs are essential. I know my country's government did. > Supply Chain's are very fragile, as the world has come to see, you toss a monkey wrench in the center of that by have governments attempt a top down mandated lock down where they deiced by fiat who should work, who should not, well you are going to have a bad time. And how do you distinguish the monkey wrench of "government fiat" from the monkey wrench of "lots of people who work in the supply chain getting sick"? https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2020/covid-19-in-us-poultry-plants/index.html https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2020/covid-19-in-us-po... > Central Planning never works, never has worked, and never will work. People need to stop trying it I haven't seen any evidence that anyone tried to implement Central Planning, but I'm happy to read any you might have.

syshum 5y ago
>>Okay, but presumably a smart government would decide that all jobs involved in the production and transportation of foodstuffs are essential. I know my country's government did. That is the folly of this way of thinking, all jobs are interlinked, you can not just extract jobs from the market and not have an impact. The person that cooks breakfast for the truck driver that picks up the food from the warehouse that stored the food that came from the factory that made the food from ingredients from a farm field is just as "essential" as ever other person in the chain. As is the IT worker that works on a helpdesk for the credit card processor that service the restaurant that truck driver above stops at every morning As the manufacture of the monitor stand that the IT worker uses to hold up their monitor to enable them to service the Restaurant of the truck driver... and on and on we go down the chain.. Look up I, Pencil[1] for a better understanding of this Government just pulling out people they claim are "not essential" to food production or other essential things is foolish because all jobs are essential. Period. non-essential jobs do not exist, and any government claiming there is, and claiming they are smart enough to make that determination should never be trusted with anything. >I haven't seen any evidence that anyone tried to implement Central Planning The very nature of choosing who can work, who cant, what is jobs are essential, what jobs are not is Central planning [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYO3tOqDISE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYO3tOqDISE
- EdwardDiego 5y ago
  > The person that cooks breakfast for the truck driver ...the truck driver can make breakfast at home. > As is the IT worker that works on a helpdesk for the credit card processor that service the restaurant that truck driver above stops at every morning The truck driver probably shouldn't during a pandemic. > Government just pulling out people they claim are "not essential" Again, if you have actual evidence of this, I'll read it man, but otherwise I've got no time for your anarchocapitalist rants.
  - abduhl 5y ago
    You're right of course, it's the lazy lower class that is causing the supply chain issues. If only the truck driver would make his own breakfast at 4AM so he can be at the yard by 4:30AM so that he can work 14 hours (because, as we've seen in the past week, the trucking industry isn't bursting with employees) and then be home by 7PM. Should he cook his own lunch too? Maybe he can wake up at 3:30AM for that. What about his dinner? Maybe he can wake up at 3AM. Can he read his kids bedtime stories? Maybe he can wake up at 2:30AM so that he has time at the end of the day. After all, he has been deemed essential.