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Perhaps not on its own, but as a sign of things to come. Ireland was proudly at the forefront of boycotting the South African apartheid, and is proudly at the f

Perhaps not on its own, but as a sign of things to come. Ireland was proudly at the forefront of boycotting the South African apartheid, and is proudly at the forefront of boycotting the Israeli apartheid.

qaq 5y ago
I live in Ireland and honestly the topic doesn't come up much if at all.
- colinb 5y ago
  I live in Ireland and although (((I))) might be more sensitive to it than you, I think it comes up quite a lot. A week or two ago The Irish Times (IT) was agog at Sally Rooney's decision not to allow her newest book to be published in Hebrew. The opinion pieces, letters pages, and of course Reddit were alive with praise for her "bold and courageous stance". This kind of thing comes up every few weeks, at least it does if you read the IT who's editorial policies have a pretty clear slant on this - as is completely their right - even if I don't much like it. This week the attention was on the Minister of Foreign Affairs and his dislike of Israel's recent classification of several NGOs as terrorist organizations.
  - qaq 5y ago
    I meant as a concern for the avg person I talk to. It def comes up in media
  - mysecretaccount 5y ago
    > A week or two ago The Irish Times (IT) was agog at Sally Rooney's decision not to allow her newest book to be published in Hebrew. Sorry to be pedantic, but this was not Sally Rooney's decision. As part of the BDS movement, she did not want to patronize an Israeli company that would be handling the translation. Rooney has stated that she has no objection to the novel being translated into Hebrew.
colinb 5y ago
Ireland is always at the forefront of confronting bigotry in other places. Not so much at home. (((I))) am Irish. I live in Ireland. I like Ireland. But our social justice pretensions are no shinier than anyone else's. Ask the travelers. Ask those on Direct Provision. Ask the people who got dumped in Ballymun with promises of parks and shops, only to be abandoned for decades. FWIW, it seem clear to me that the Palestinians have got the nasty end of the stick and deserve better, as much as you or I do. If the only answer you have is one that means that all the Jews in Israel die (ala BSM though they don't yet have the guts to say so) then the Jews of Israel aren't gonna help you. If they don't fight, what outcome do you see?

qaq 5y ago

I live in Ireland and honestly the topic doesn't come up much if at all.

colinb 5y ago
I live in Ireland and although (((I))) might be more sensitive to it than you, I think it comes up quite a lot. A week or two ago The Irish Times (IT) was agog at Sally Rooney's decision not to allow her newest book to be published in Hebrew. The opinion pieces, letters pages, and of course Reddit were alive with praise for her "bold and courageous stance". This kind of thing comes up every few weeks, at least it does if you read the IT who's editorial policies have a pretty clear slant on this - as is completely their right - even if I don't much like it. This week the attention was on the Minister of Foreign Affairs and his dislike of Israel's recent classification of several NGOs as terrorist organizations.
- qaq 5y ago
  I meant as a concern for the avg person I talk to. It def comes up in media
- mysecretaccount 5y ago
  > A week or two ago The Irish Times (IT) was agog at Sally Rooney's decision not to allow her newest book to be published in Hebrew. Sorry to be pedantic, but this was not Sally Rooney's decision. As part of the BDS movement, she did not want to patronize an Israeli company that would be handling the translation. Rooney has stated that she has no objection to the novel being translated into Hebrew.

colinb 5y ago

Ireland is always at the forefront of confronting bigotry in other places. Not so much at home. (((I))) am Irish. I live in Ireland. I like Ireland. But our social justice pretensions are no shinier than anyone else's. Ask the travelers. Ask those on Direct Provision. Ask the people who got dumped in Ballymun with promises of parks and shops, only to be abandoned for decades. FWIW, it seem clear to me that the Palestinians have got the nasty end of the stick and deserve better, as much as you or I do. If the only answer you have is one that means that all the Jews in Israel die (ala BSM though they don't yet have the guts to say so) then the Jews of Israel aren't gonna help you. If they don't fight, what outcome do you see?