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That's a ridiculously empty self supporting meaningless assertion, care to elaborate?

MisterBastahrd 5y ago
Statistically, gun owners are far more likely to be injured by their own weapons than the weapons of others, and the sheer availability of firearms forces law enforcement officers to escalate situations far more quickly than they otherwise would. It follows that people who are walking around with guns live in fear of confrontation with other people who have guns. I have had five personal relationships with people who have died due to firearms. They are as follows: 1. My cousin, who killed himself while hunting ducks 2. My childhood friend, who killed himself while cleaning a rifle 3. My childhood friend, who was killed by cops after falling asleep at a railroad crossing and dropped his phone in the car when the police approached 4. My uncle, who committed suicide 5. Another childhood friend, who was drunk and disorderly and shot to death by cops while unarmed in the front yard of his house On the flip side, I don't personally know a single human being whose life was either saved or made better by possessing or being around someone who possessed a firearm.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  Statistically, you're an extreme outlier if you know 5 people who died of gunshot wounds. Of those 5 though, two were killed by cops. Can I draw from the fact that you included those that you don't want police to have firearms either? When you say "killed himself" for 1 and 2, do you mean deliberately? Again though, you're an extreme outlier. And even more so that you don't know personally a single individual who even once was saved by proximity to a firearm, such as for example saved from domestic violence by the arrival of armed police. I live around guns and people with guns, there are literally hundreds of guns around me within a quarter mile radius right now, I only have three gun deaths of anyone I have ever known, one was a suicide, one was an old lady who defended her orphanage from an armed intruder, and another was a man shot by his ex girlfriend while he attempted to assault her. The last two of course are examples of lives saved or made better by possessing a firearm. Then there are the other reasons to have them besides personal protection. Particularly there's the ethereal "deterrent to tyranny" you hear cited, but practically speaking there's also the ability to procure meat without a massive supply chain and the ability to defend against wildlife in areas where that is a tangible threat.

Statistically, gun owners are far more likely to be injured by their own weapons than the weapons of others, and the sheer availability of firearms forces law enforcement officers to escalate situations far more quickly than they otherwise would. It follows that people who are walking around with guns live in fear of confrontation with other people who have guns. I have had five personal relationships with people who have died due to firearms. They are as follows: 1. My cousin, who killed himself while hunting ducks 2. My childhood friend, who killed himself while cleaning a rifle 3. My childhood friend, who was killed by cops after falling asleep at a railroad crossing and dropped his phone in the car when the police approached 4. My uncle, who committed suicide 5. Another childhood friend, who was drunk and disorderly and shot to death by cops while unarmed in the front yard of his house On the flip side, I don't personally know a single human being whose life was either saved or made better by possessing or being around someone who possessed a firearm.

betwixthewires 5y ago
Statistically, you're an extreme outlier if you know 5 people who died of gunshot wounds. Of those 5 though, two were killed by cops. Can I draw from the fact that you included those that you don't want police to have firearms either? When you say "killed himself" for 1 and 2, do you mean deliberately? Again though, you're an extreme outlier. And even more so that you don't know personally a single individual who even once was saved by proximity to a firearm, such as for example saved from domestic violence by the arrival of armed police. I live around guns and people with guns, there are literally hundreds of guns around me within a quarter mile radius right now, I only have three gun deaths of anyone I have ever known, one was a suicide, one was an old lady who defended her orphanage from an armed intruder, and another was a man shot by his ex girlfriend while he attempted to assault her. The last two of course are examples of lives saved or made better by possessing a firearm. Then there are the other reasons to have them besides personal protection. Particularly there's the ethereal "deterrent to tyranny" you hear cited, but practically speaking there's also the ability to procure meat without a massive supply chain and the ability to defend against wildlife in areas where that is a tangible threat.