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YouTube was founded when most people had slow internet and they seemed to have done ok. I have fiber at my house and do about 920mb/s both up and down. It’s onl

YouTube was founded when most people had slow internet and they seemed to have done ok. I have fiber at my house and do about 920mb/s both up and down. It’s only a matter of time before that becomes almost universally common enough to rule out bandwidth from any consideration. As a result I am writing a peer-to-peer application assuming universal fiber, 4K displays, and IPv6 are already common.

morsch 5y ago
At the same time YouTube was founded we also had widespread peer to peer audio and video distribution, despite asymmetric Internet connections. Probably the largest peer to peer networks? It worked fine. It was on the verge of being real time for video, when it was replaced by centralised, commercial technology.
nobody9999 5y ago
>I have fiber at my house and do about 920mb/s both up and down. It’s only a matter of time before that becomes almost universally common enough to rule out bandwidth from any consideration. I hope you're right. Where I live (the US), most ISPs have cable TV systems, interests in streaming platforms, or both. That provides incentives to maintain the status quo WRT asymmetric links and centralization. ISPs like Verizon, which had previously pushed hard on fiber deployment, are refocusing on wireless, as that's a much bigger profit center for them. I hope you're right about the inevitability of (multi-)GB/sec symmetric connections, but the current incentive structure argues against it, at least in the US. Which is why I believe that last-mile FTTP[0] should largely be local, public/quasi-public[1] utilities that support themselves by selling interconnects to multiple ISPs. Those ISPs can then compete on speed, price, services, etc. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x#FTTP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x#FTTP [1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quasi_public_corporation.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quasi_public_corporatio...

morsch 5y ago

At the same time YouTube was founded we also had widespread peer to peer audio and video distribution, despite asymmetric Internet connections. Probably the largest peer to peer networks? It worked fine. It was on the verge of being real time for video, when it was replaced by centralised, commercial technology.

nobody9999 5y ago

>I have fiber at my house and do about 920mb/s both up and down. It’s only a matter of time before that becomes almost universally common enough to rule out bandwidth from any consideration. I hope you're right. Where I live (the US), most ISPs have cable TV systems, interests in streaming platforms, or both. That provides incentives to maintain the status quo WRT asymmetric links and centralization. ISPs like Verizon, which had previously pushed hard on fiber deployment, are refocusing on wireless, as that's a much bigger profit center for them. I hope you're right about the inevitability of (multi-)GB/sec symmetric connections, but the current incentive structure argues against it, at least in the US. Which is why I believe that last-mile FTTP[0] should largely be local, public/quasi-public[1] utilities that support themselves by selling interconnects to multiple ISPs. Those ISPs can then compete on speed, price, services, etc. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x#FTTP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x#FTTP [1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quasi_public_corporation.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quasi_public_corporatio...