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Just pointing out a bit of inadvertent ageism. And I definitely wasn't implying they live boring lives. My spouse for example doesn't work, and in fact is qui

Just pointing out a bit of inadvertent ageism. And I definitely wasn't implying they live boring lives. My spouse for example doesn't work, and in fact is quite busy with an impressive garden landscape. She doesn't always know what day it is, because it doesn't usually matter.

ASalazarMX 5y ago
I think I was unintentionally ageist, sorry. I'm fifty myself, it wasn't deliberate. Also, a routine doesn't necessarily gets boring, you're right. I was thinking of a university friend of mine. He didn't work, only studied for finals, and had a very interesting life with little money. Somehow he didn't flunk.
- pugworthy 5y ago
  I'm 60. I'm learning to be sensitive about it, while also being aware that there are those that are younger who have insights I don't. It's a partnership, and it works better when one tries to understand that roles evolve over time - for one's self and for others. Also understand that stereotypes of age (and many other things) are not a great way to go through life.
- seoulmetro 5y ago
  You weren't being "ageist". It's normal to assume that old people live at home and aren't out doing many things. It's also normal to assume that 16 year olds get acne. Please don't let someone censor you for acting rationally.
  - ASalazarMX 5y ago
    I stand corrected. My main point was that people whose days are more or less identical tend to forget what day it is. The second part of my original comment even shows that it can happen to young people, so age is not the main cause.
    - seoulmetro 5y ago
      Exactly. Young people can lose their teeth in one instant too, but that shouldn't stop us assuming that older people have less teeth. Heck, even teeth don't care how old you are and can be lost at any age.
  - pugworthy 5y ago
    > It's normal to assume that old people live at home and aren't out doing many things No, it's not normal. Not at all. I hope for all that's good it's not your life when you're old, or if you're old it's not your life.
    - seoulmetro 5y ago
      No. It's 100% normal. >I hope for all that's good it's not your life when you're old, or if you're old it's not your life. I have no idea what you mean here.
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    - Digit-Al 5y ago
      I think you are misinterpreting OP's comment. They didn't say that old people aren't out doing many things, they said that it was normal to assume that old people aren't out doing many things. There is a difference. I still think that OP is incorrect that this is evidence that previous comment is not ageist. Just because most people hold the same prejudice doesn't stop it being prejudice. Back in the 1920's it would have been quite normal for white people to assume that black people (like myself) were inferior. Just because it was normal doesn't mean it wasn't racist.
      - seoulmetro 5y ago
        >Back in the 1920's it would have been quite normal for white people to assume that black people (like myself) were inferior. Just because it was normal doesn't mean it wasn't racist. Not the same. You can't measure inferiority. You can measure activities, time and age. I am right.
seoulmetro 5y ago
It's not ageism to recognise the negatives of age... jesus christ.
- pugworthy 5y ago
  That's fine as long as it's ok to point out the negatives of youth. But even that's not fine. Better to recognize we're all different, whether it be age, race, creed, orientation, cilantro/no-cilantro, whatever. VI vs EMACS tho - 'nother story.
  - seoulmetro 5y ago
    No, that's fine. Recognising that we're different is fine. That comes with recognising that some of us are the same.
rewgs 5y ago
I mean, it's not age-ist. Age-related? Age-correlated? Age-esque? Yes, for sure. But "age-ist" brings with it a connotation of being derisive which is definitely not part of this conversation.

ASalazarMX 5y ago

I think I was unintentionally ageist, sorry. I'm fifty myself, it wasn't deliberate. Also, a routine doesn't necessarily gets boring, you're right. I was thinking of a university friend of mine. He didn't work, only studied for finals, and had a very interesting life with little money. Somehow he didn't flunk.

pugworthy 5y ago
I'm 60. I'm learning to be sensitive about it, while also being aware that there are those that are younger who have insights I don't. It's a partnership, and it works better when one tries to understand that roles evolve over time - for one's self and for others. Also understand that stereotypes of age (and many other things) are not a great way to go through life.
seoulmetro 5y ago
You weren't being "ageist". It's normal to assume that old people live at home and aren't out doing many things. It's also normal to assume that 16 year olds get acne. Please don't let someone censor you for acting rationally.
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  I stand corrected. My main point was that people whose days are more or less identical tend to forget what day it is. The second part of my original comment even shows that it can happen to young people, so age is not the main cause.
  - seoulmetro 5y ago
    Exactly. Young people can lose their teeth in one instant too, but that shouldn't stop us assuming that older people have less teeth. Heck, even teeth don't care how old you are and can be lost at any age.
- pugworthy 5y ago
  > It's normal to assume that old people live at home and aren't out doing many things No, it's not normal. Not at all. I hope for all that's good it's not your life when you're old, or if you're old it's not your life.
  - seoulmetro 5y ago
    No. It's 100% normal. >I hope for all that's good it's not your life when you're old, or if you're old it's not your life. I have no idea what you mean here.
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  - Digit-Al 5y ago
    I think you are misinterpreting OP's comment. They didn't say that old people aren't out doing many things, they said that it was normal to assume that old people aren't out doing many things. There is a difference. I still think that OP is incorrect that this is evidence that previous comment is not ageist. Just because most people hold the same prejudice doesn't stop it being prejudice. Back in the 1920's it would have been quite normal for white people to assume that black people (like myself) were inferior. Just because it was normal doesn't mean it wasn't racist.
    - seoulmetro 5y ago
      >Back in the 1920's it would have been quite normal for white people to assume that black people (like myself) were inferior. Just because it was normal doesn't mean it wasn't racist. Not the same. You can't measure inferiority. You can measure activities, time and age. I am right.

seoulmetro 5y ago

It's not ageism to recognise the negatives of age... jesus christ.

pugworthy 5y ago
That's fine as long as it's ok to point out the negatives of youth. But even that's not fine. Better to recognize we're all different, whether it be age, race, creed, orientation, cilantro/no-cilantro, whatever. VI vs EMACS tho - 'nother story.
- seoulmetro 5y ago
  No, that's fine. Recognising that we're different is fine. That comes with recognising that some of us are the same.

rewgs 5y ago

I mean, it's not age-ist. Age-related? Age-correlated? Age-esque? Yes, for sure. But "age-ist" brings with it a connotation of being derisive which is definitely not part of this conversation.