> Also their Ryzen numbers are beyond suspicious. On a silent configuration (peak power draw ~209W, 175W sustained, some undervolting) my Ryzen 5900X hits a Cin

> Also their Ryzen numbers are beyond suspicious. On a silent configuration (peak power draw ~209W, 175W sustained, some undervolting) my Ryzen 5900X hits a Cinebench R20 score of 8835 vs their 8390. I suspect my rig is worse since I cheaped out on the RAM, but I wouldn't know because they omit information about the Ryzen test rig. Firmware quality for AM4 boards is ... "variable". My board restricted CPU power to 60% of nominal because they put in the wrong ADC scaling factors in some BIOS revision. Some boards have PBO enabled by default (which nets big % on the kill-a-watt, less % in performance). Many boards have bad defaults when you enable XMP which steal a few Watts from the actual CPU cores. CB mostly scales with core frequency, memory and FCLK are less important. > At that point some Ryzen's will be operating at close to 6GHz per core. There's no way any of them will get close to 6 GHz without LN2.