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What kind of argument is that? It's not like those people invented electrical power. They spread lies which cost lives. Every day. People DIE because of misinf

What kind of argument is that? It's not like those people invented electrical power. They spread lies which cost lives. Every day. People DIE because of misinformation. Snake oil salesman were no heroes of humanity.

wowokay 5y ago
Information is subjective. Do you care what the pin to unlock my door is? If someone had a post asking for a unlock code and I posted mine that would be information to me but could be construed as misinformation by them. If someone makes a post about religion wouldn’t an atheist consider that misinformation?
- Krasnol 5y ago
  FYI: Your weak attempt to water down scientific facts never worked on intelligent people. After the last years of Donald Trump and Covid, it doesn't work on even more people. The only remaining few this derailment attempt works for are the target group for misinformation and they don't have to be derailed further. Think about that for a moment.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >Information is subjective. Subjective (adj)[0]: existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought; pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; Philosophy. relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself. relating to properties or specific conditions of the mind as distinguished from general or universal experience. pertaining to the subject or substance in which attributes inhere; essential. You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means. Old memes aside, I (as a reasonably intelligent person) don't understand what you mean by that. Please explain what you mean by "subjective" in this context. Are you arguing that information like "the heat of vaporization of water is 100C at sea level," or "the island of Manhattan has a land area of ~23 square miles" is only valid or correct if I as an individual decide that's the case, otherwise it's false? How about information like "On November 19, 1863, President Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg Address," or "I voted in the 2021 elections." Are those subjective? [0] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/subjective https://www.dictionary.com/browse/subjective
motherzucker 5y ago
>What kind of argument is that? An argument based on human history and the progress of human rights? >They spread lies which cost lives. Precisely the same argument used time and time again against the thought leaders of human rights.
- Krasnol 5y ago
  > An argument based on human history and the progress of human rights? This is not what I meant and you know it. > Precisely the same argument used time and time again against the thought leaders of human rights. This is utter bullshit and derailment. People who spread misinformation about covid are wrong. There are scientific facts which prove them wrong. The fact that they repeat something against those facts doesn't make them heroes because there was Copernicus who was also "against something". Copernicus had the facts side behind him. Those guys you try to advertise here are the church which was against him because they had THE FEELING that he was wrong and no scientific facts which would support them.

wowokay 5y ago

Information is subjective. Do you care what the pin to unlock my door is? If someone had a post asking for a unlock code and I posted mine that would be information to me but could be construed as misinformation by them. If someone makes a post about religion wouldn’t an atheist consider that misinformation?

Krasnol 5y ago
FYI: Your weak attempt to water down scientific facts never worked on intelligent people. After the last years of Donald Trump and Covid, it doesn't work on even more people. The only remaining few this derailment attempt works for are the target group for misinformation and they don't have to be derailed further. Think about that for a moment.
nobody9999 5y ago
>Information is subjective. Subjective (adj)[0]: existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought; pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; Philosophy. relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself. relating to properties or specific conditions of the mind as distinguished from general or universal experience. pertaining to the subject or substance in which attributes inhere; essential. You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means. Old memes aside, I (as a reasonably intelligent person) don't understand what you mean by that. Please explain what you mean by "subjective" in this context. Are you arguing that information like "the heat of vaporization of water is 100C at sea level," or "the island of Manhattan has a land area of ~23 square miles" is only valid or correct if I as an individual decide that's the case, otherwise it's false? How about information like "On November 19, 1863, President Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg Address," or "I voted in the 2021 elections." Are those subjective? [0] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/subjective https://www.dictionary.com/browse/subjective

motherzucker 5y ago

>What kind of argument is that? An argument based on human history and the progress of human rights? >They spread lies which cost lives. Precisely the same argument used time and time again against the thought leaders of human rights.

Krasnol 5y ago
> An argument based on human history and the progress of human rights? This is not what I meant and you know it. > Precisely the same argument used time and time again against the thought leaders of human rights. This is utter bullshit and derailment. People who spread misinformation about covid are wrong. There are scientific facts which prove them wrong. The fact that they repeat something against those facts doesn't make them heroes because there was Copernicus who was also "against something". Copernicus had the facts side behind him. Those guys you try to advertise here are the church which was against him because they had THE FEELING that he was wrong and no scientific facts which would support them.