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I have been burned often enough by software that auto-updates itself that I am positive I don't want it enabled by default on _my_ systems. Anywhere from betwee

I have been burned often enough by software that auto-updates itself that I am positive I don't want it enabled by default on _my_ systems. Anywhere from between "this feature I really liked is gone" to "now it crashes every five minutes." Perhaps more importantly, companies that offer software that can auto-update itself, can also make it so that the software uninstalls itself. Or worse, installs something you don't want. It also makes for an especially juicy target for supply chain attackers. So you have quite a bit of a double-edged sword there, from a security standpoint. I wonder when we're going to stop pretending that there shouldn't be at least a fuzzy divide between software and systems intended for technical users and software for non-technical users. (And we should not be afraid to label them as such.) I fully agree with auto-updates for mass-market software but as a technical user, I don't want the system that I rely upon to make a living to constantly be changing out from underneath me.

duskwuff 5y ago
> I have been burned often enough by software that auto-updates itself that I am positive I don't want it enabled by default on _my_ systems. Even then, there's a difference between "automatic updates aren't enabled by default" and "the application cannot update itself at all, even if you ask it to, so you'll have to download the new version yourself" -- and it sounds like this developer has chosen the latter.
kaba0 5y ago
I’m sorry but if you think that disabling auto-updates on goddamn browsers, then you may not be as technical a user as you think of yourself. Browsers run untrusted code 0-24, which get JIT compiled to machine code through a very complex and bug-prone process. Add to that that desktop OSs are quite lacking when it comes to sandboxes, so even with browser sandboxes, the potential for serious damage is quire hard. So, staying ahead of bugs is a must.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  Junkies snort, sniff, drink, eat, inject untested stuff all the times, which get's metabolized to hot shit, frying their neurons, trying their livers, trough a very complex and bug-prone process with the occassional OD. Add to that that rational thought is quite lacking when it comes to judgement. So, stopping to be a junkie is must. edit: Blablala Didn't you get the analogy? If your'e using software equivalent to the mindstate of some longtime crackhead with shrunken brains, there isn't much you can do to get the brain repaired. You could pretend to do so, but you could also just switch off/disable the dangerous stuff, even if it locks you out from some content. Which could be seen as another addiction. So stop accessing that, too.
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  - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
    Yeah bitches, light up the pipe some more! Enjoy your fever dreams, where it is considered normal to build skyscrapers on a foundation of a house of cards, which requires constant maintenance by an army of people equal only to the builders of the pyramids. Make Work! Make Work!

duskwuff 5y ago

> I have been burned often enough by software that auto-updates itself that I am positive I don't want it enabled by default on _my_ systems. Even then, there's a difference between "automatic updates aren't enabled by default" and "the application cannot update itself at all, even if you ask it to, so you'll have to download the new version yourself" -- and it sounds like this developer has chosen the latter.

kaba0 5y ago

I’m sorry but if you think that disabling auto-updates on goddamn browsers, then you may not be as technical a user as you think of yourself. Browsers run untrusted code 0-24, which get JIT compiled to machine code through a very complex and bug-prone process. Add to that that desktop OSs are quite lacking when it comes to sandboxes, so even with browser sandboxes, the potential for serious damage is quire hard. So, staying ahead of bugs is a must.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Junkies snort, sniff, drink, eat, inject untested stuff all the times, which get's metabolized to hot shit, frying their neurons, trying their livers, trough a very complex and bug-prone process with the occassional OD. Add to that that rational thought is quite lacking when it comes to judgement. So, stopping to be a junkie is must. edit: Blablala Didn't you get the analogy? If your'e using software equivalent to the mindstate of some longtime crackhead with shrunken brains, there isn't much you can do to get the brain repaired. You could pretend to do so, but you could also just switch off/disable the dangerous stuff, even if it locks you out from some content. Which could be seen as another addiction. So stop accessing that, too.
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- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  Yeah bitches, light up the pipe some more! Enjoy your fever dreams, where it is considered normal to build skyscrapers on a foundation of a house of cards, which requires constant maintenance by an army of people equal only to the builders of the pyramids. Make Work! Make Work!