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There are a lot of negatively slanted replies in this thread who sound oblivious to how hiring works or sound like people who have justifiably been passed over.
by evilduck 5y ago
There are a lot of negatively slanted replies in this thread who sound oblivious to how hiring works or sound like people who have justifiably been passed over. Even the phrasing of "what answers are they looking for?" sounds a little like you're viewing this as someone you're going up against, or intrusive questioning, or just hoop to jump through just to earn a paycheck instead of a conversation that could have benefits for you.
Is salary alignment your only metric for accepting a job? Of course not. It goes the other direction too. Recruiters and hiring managers also don't just want someone who just matches the salary range, they want the best possible fit from the pool of candidates available to them. Even when it comes to money, some salary ranges are hard limits, others might be flexible for the right candidate. The recruiter probably knows which employer is which. Yes, obviously recruiters are not 100% vested in your career or becoming your buddy but they are financially motivated to be a decent match maker and you should hold the conversation in good faith (they don't get paid in full if you don't work out). Think of a job match as a radar chart, not just salary demand on a one dimension number line.
Not having something thoughtful to say in response to these types of questions probably just means you're going to get tossed over to seat-filler jobs and not places willing to pay a premium for perfect fits because you're not giving them anything to work with. Trust me when I say that experienced recruiters have met all sorts and you have nothing novel or surprising to say in these early stage questions, even the average ones will figure you out pretty quickly.
- b20000 5y agorecruiters have nothing interesting or novel to say either.
- otabdeveloper4 5y agoThey're not there for the conversation. They're there to make a quick commission, which should be your goal too.
- b20000 5y agoand how do i do that, make a quick commission?
- evilduck 5y agoI'm in 100% agreement and generally dislike information asymmetry jobs, but it doesn't mean they can't help your prospects when you are talking with them. Your judgement of a recruiter as a person isn't generally relevant to job seeking, but it doesn't work like that the other direction. If you're looking for a job and talking to recruiters it's foolish to then treat them coldly, if you hate it so much find other means, I've had plenty of success with personal network referrals and cold applying also. It's like working with a realtor but then trying to avoid telling them why you moved or what type of house you're looking for and only giving them your budget. It makes no sense to me.
- b20000 5y agothe info you give them allows them to make more money off you or close faster.
- evilduck 5y agoIt's not clear to me that you really understand the hiring process at all, which might explain your strange negativity. How is a recruiter getting you more money (and increasing their commission) or landing you a job quicker bad? As a candidate you arent't paying them a dime and you are free to walk away at moment's notice.
- b20000 5y agoi’ve dealt with plenty of strange negativity from recruiters, thanks