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Disclaimer: Contributor to SS14. Added cigs and refactored some stuff. Gonna heavy disagree with it. The thing is porting big games takes time. And SS13 isn't

by Ygg2 5y ago

Disclaimer: Contributor to SS14. Added cigs and refactored some stuff. Gonna heavy disagree with it. The thing is porting big games takes time. And SS13 isn't even like a single game. It's several dueling codebases. Not to mention SS14 is more ambitious than that: make your own engine, plus add pixel movement, grid rotation, etc. And SS14 is at a playable alpha. And I mean actual alpha, not Blizzard polish alpha. Like people discovered you can grab and throw the station - alpha. And there is a man with a suitcase full of talking brains , because brains have a communication component. We have enough people for playtests weekly. > Old players and devs won't move That's pretty strange to claim, when we had influx of coders from other codebases. Granted not all will like the new code base, but some do.

atleta 5y ago
Please consider using tar.gz for the Linux download as ZIP does not store the file permissions and thus the game won't start. The SS14.Launcher should probably be an executable, which itself is a shell script trying to start bin/SS14.Launcher . The shell script can be started without it being marked as an executable but it will fail when it tries to execute bin/SS14.Launcher. I also had to set the execute bit on bin/loader/SS14.Launcher as otherwise the game would throw an exception after trying to connect to a server. System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception (13): Permission denied at System.Diagnostics.Process.ForkAndExecProcess(String filename, String[] argv, String[] envp, String cwd, Boolean redirectStdin, Boolean redirectStdout, Boolean redirectStderr, Boolean setCredentials, UInt32 userId, UInt32 groupId, UInt32[] groups, Int32& stdinFd, Int32& stdoutFd, Int32& stderrFd, Boolean usesTerminal, Boolean throwOnNoExec)
- tmpmoony 5y ago
  This is a problem with your choice of unzip (Midnight Commander according to the issue) tool, nobody else seems to have this issue. Maybe report an issue to them instead?
  - atleta 5y ago
    Right, as it turns out it was because Midnight Commander doesn't handle the non-standard extension Info-ZIP uses to store the file attributes. Whether others have this issue, you don't know. And they don't know, which is not surprising given the rude tone they (or you) reacted to my report. Also, I was actually using a pretty popular app to quickly unpack the archive, so it's more like SS14's problem than MC's. Simply because they are bigger and more wide spread. (Not saying that it wouldn't be nice if they improved their ZIP file handling.) Anyway, tar.gz is without any doubt the most obvious and safest bet if you are targeting unix systems.
a_t48 5y ago
> Like people discovered you can grab and throw the station - alpha. And there is a man with a suitcase full of talking brains , because brains have a communication component. This feels like a classic SS13 bug, business as usual, really.
- tmpmoony 5y ago
  I think they got the station throwing a bit wrong, I actually had to modify the game slightly to remove a sanity check in hands code to pull it off. Was very funny though.
  - Ygg2 5y ago
    Maybe, but brains talking one was from playtest. Really old one.
wetpaws 5y ago
Also a contributor, given how my PRs are handled, i don't expect SS14 to have feature parity with SS13 anytime till 2100.

by Ygg2 5y ago

atleta 5y ago

Please consider using tar.gz for the Linux download as ZIP does not store the file permissions and thus the game won't start. The SS14.Launcher should probably be an executable, which itself is a shell script trying to start bin/SS14.Launcher . The shell script can be started without it being marked as an executable but it will fail when it tries to execute bin/SS14.Launcher. I also had to set the execute bit on bin/loader/SS14.Launcher as otherwise the game would throw an exception after trying to connect to a server. System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception (13): Permission denied at System.Diagnostics.Process.ForkAndExecProcess(String filename, String[] argv, String[] envp, String cwd, Boolean redirectStdin, Boolean redirectStdout, Boolean redirectStderr, Boolean setCredentials, UInt32 userId, UInt32 groupId, UInt32[] groups, Int32& stdinFd, Int32& stdoutFd, Int32& stderrFd, Boolean usesTerminal, Boolean throwOnNoExec)

tmpmoony 5y ago
This is a problem with your choice of unzip (Midnight Commander according to the issue) tool, nobody else seems to have this issue. Maybe report an issue to them instead?
- atleta 5y ago
  Right, as it turns out it was because Midnight Commander doesn't handle the non-standard extension Info-ZIP uses to store the file attributes. Whether others have this issue, you don't know. And they don't know, which is not surprising given the rude tone they (or you) reacted to my report. Also, I was actually using a pretty popular app to quickly unpack the archive, so it's more like SS14's problem than MC's. Simply because they are bigger and more wide spread. (Not saying that it wouldn't be nice if they improved their ZIP file handling.) Anyway, tar.gz is without any doubt the most obvious and safest bet if you are targeting unix systems.

a_t48 5y ago

> Like people discovered you can grab and throw the station - alpha. And there is a man with a suitcase full of talking brains , because brains have a communication component. This feels like a classic SS13 bug, business as usual, really.

tmpmoony 5y ago
I think they got the station throwing a bit wrong, I actually had to modify the game slightly to remove a sanity check in hands code to pull it off. Was very funny though.
- Ygg2 5y ago
  Maybe, but brains talking one was from playtest. Really old one.

wetpaws 5y ago

Also a contributor, given how my PRs are handled, i don't expect SS14 to have feature parity with SS13 anytime till 2100.