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Another hunch that I have is that as you get older you tend to have less unique experiences. I believe our brains compress the information and an entire day tha
by djmips 5y ago
Another hunch that I have is that as you get older you tend to have less unique experiences. I believe our brains compress the information and an entire day that was much like the previous day can just feel like it sped by quickly. Alternatively, if you go on vacation or change your routine then time will slow down as you process a lot of new information.
- WA9ACE 5y agoIt's all anecdotal, but having been full time RVing for several months now after selling our house time has slowed to a crawl. Before we sold our house the days flew past at 100mph. It's amazing how little control we can exert on our own perception of the flow of time.
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- gmfawcett 5y agoThis is a much more compelling argument than the article's.
- ASalazarMX 5y agoThis is my impression as well. Old people who have settled in a routine can tell what year and month it is, but probably have a harder time telling the day or weekday. For them, all days are weekends. You don't even need to be old to feel this. I've had vacations where I mostly played JRPGs, and those vacations certainly felt considerably shorter.
- cassianoleal 5y agoJRPGs, as well as the Civ games, are time compressors. You blink and 5 hours have passed.
- contingencies 5y agoCommuting / driving.
- lsaferite 5y agoGames like factorio must be 'super compressors'.
- eafkuor 5y agoGod, really? I can't take those for more than 1h at a time usually. Except Chrono Trigger I guess. Any recommendations?
- cassianoleal 5y agoJRPGs? The Persona series is quite interesting, good story telling; Xenoblade Chronicles 1 and 2 are both very good; NieR Automata is a great action RPG set in a dystopic future; the old school Zeldas, the original Phantasy Star... I admit, they're all an acquired taste in many ways but once you get into it and stop minding the complexity in some of them, they can suck you in and move you out of time.
- ASalazarMX 5y agoChrono Trigger is an excellent game! Maybe Chrono Cross (PS1) if you want to play a sequel. Other classics are Dragon Warrior IV for the NES, and Phantasy star IV for the Sega Genesis. No need to play the previous ones. My other recommendation is using an emulator to give you unlimited money and experience. The gameplay is ruined, but the storytelling is more fluid, and you'll save many hours.
- pugworthy 5y agoYou might correct that to "people who don't work" instead of "old people".
- ASalazarMX 5y agoNot necessarily. People who don't work aren't necessarily living boring lives.
- pugworthy 5y agoJust pointing out a bit of inadvertent ageism. And I definitely wasn't implying they live boring lives. My spouse for example doesn't work, and in fact is quite busy with an impressive garden landscape. She doesn't always know what day it is, because it doesn't usually matter.
- ASalazarMX 5y agoI think I was unintentionally ageist, sorry. I'm fifty myself, it wasn't deliberate. Also, a routine doesn't necessarily gets boring, you're right. I was thinking of a university friend of mine. He didn't work, only studied for finals, and had a very interesting life with little money. Somehow he didn't flunk.
- pugworthy 5y agoI'm 60. I'm learning to be sensitive about it, while also being aware that there are those that are younger who have insights I don't. It's a partnership, and it works better when one tries to understand that roles evolve over time - for one's self and for others. Also understand that stereotypes of age (and many other things) are not a great way to go through life.
- seoulmetro 5y agoYou weren't being "ageist". It's normal to assume that old people live at home and aren't out doing many things. It's also normal to assume that 16 year olds get acne. Please don't let someone censor you for acting rationally.
- belltaco 5y agoBoth can be true in their own way though.
- itsdsmurrell 5y agoYes, I agree, the article is very bad and I don't know how it got upvoted so highly here.
- d23 5y agoThis is more intuitive, but I don't know that it makes it more compelling for me. I find the article's hypothesis a bit more interesting, since it's not exactly what one would expect.
- lathiat 5y agoI've seen a different explanation. When you are 10 years old, a year of your life is 1/10th of your life. Relatively, it's a large portion. When you are 50 years old, a year of your life is a much smaller 1/50th portion of total memory, experiences, etc.
- Sohcahtoa82 5y ago> Alternatively, if you go on vacation or change your routine then time will slow down as you process a lot of new information. Yeah...the first week of a new job feels like a month of the previous job. Four months into it now, and the weeks fly by. While on vacation, the days feel long. Though once I get back, the week felt short. :-\ I worry about what retirement will be like. On one hand, all my time is free time. On the other, 10 years will probably fly by and I'll have no idea where it went.
- throwaway2331 5y agoTruly gives a whole nother meaning to "wasting your life away at a job."
- someelephant 5y agoIndeed. Our brains are good at 'compressing' similar experiences.
- com2kid 5y agoThis is the typical explanation, and it meshes very well with everyone's day to day experiences. Vacations to unique places last forever. Never been? Spend 2 weeks in Japan and you'll remember it just as vividly as the best summer from your childhood. Every moment of every day will be long and filled with memories. Debugging code every day? Yeah of course that's not memorable. Your brain is just tossing away repetitive data. Feeling like life is going by way too quick? Have a kid. Every day with a baby is unique. People with large families will have lived 200 subjective years by the time they are 70! Other advice: Stop doing stuff you are good at. Every few years try to take a new job that you are specifically not good at. Companies that hire people who have succeeded at a lot of different things but not necessarily the thing they are hiring for are likely to be very good places to work. (FWIW my current workplace doesn't hire based on language or tools or background, we hire good people and assume they can pick up what we are doing).
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- googlerx 5y agoI dunno. I had a kid and it feels like time is moving even FASTER now. "They grow up so fast..."
- fasteo 5y agoThis is it
- GuardianCaveman 5y agoThis is why I was enjoying living overseas in different countries because there were so many new experiences some frustrating some good but it did feel like time was moving slower.
- frogpelt 5y agoAnecdotally, I've seen this happen on a very small scale. The first time I drive down a road it seems longer than subsequent times. Once parts of the road become familiar the time it takes to get down the road seems shorter.
- tralarpa 5y ago> Another hunch that I have is that as you get older you tend to have less unique experiences I have read that explanation several times on different websites, but I don't agree. Had a lot of new and unique things happening to me in the past decade (kids, moving, new job, new country,...). Times still flew. I have talked to friends about this and they have noticed the same thing.
- spaetzleesser 5y agoHow old are you? These were new but now a new job or a new country is also a repeat. It gets harder and harder to find truly new things.
- handrous 5y agoI don't buy the "novelty" thing, either. Between high school and an evening job, about three of those years were the most regimented of my life, and high school definitely wasn't providing enough novelty, in any way, to make up for it. Yet those years felt extremely slow compared to now. I feel like I blink and a season's gone. Fall or Summer used to feel so long back then. And Winter, practically eternal. Now it's like, "wait, didn't Summer just start? Why are the leaves all turning?" Some time around IIRC 25, the effect really started to take off, and it's never gotten better, no matter how much my life is shaken up. [EDIT] and on shorter time scales, back then, tell me I've got an hour? Fuck yeah! Enough time to do several things! Now it's like... ugh, barely enough to even start something. Guess I'll putter and tidy the house until it's up, which'll feel like about ten minutes from now.
- spc476 5y agoAnother way to look at it: by the time you graduate high school, you will have spent 1/4 of your life there. By the time you are 40, 10 years is 1/4 of your life. By the time you are 80, 20 years is 1/4 of your life. The relative portions of your life get longer the longer you live.
- handrous 5y agoThat's another way to look at it, sure, but it still doesn't seem to explain anything about why perception of time speeds up with age. That's true, but why does it matter?
- ww520 5y agoOur brains also filters lots of uninterested stuff automatically. When we’re young, many things are interesting. We spend lots of time processing them and it feels like time goes slowly as we have to “experience” these things fully. As we grew older, lots of things have been experienced and known. The brains recognize the known patterns and just filter them out. The brains are probably micro sleep all time while idling saving energy, and the time keeping is off.
- spaetzleesser 5y agoThat's my theory too. In your first 20-30 years there are so many new things to keep your mind busy. Different schools, driver's license, first car, first time seeing a movie, first time seeing a concert, first relationships, first break up, moving out, travel, first job, children and so on. At some point it all becomes a repeat. I feel a lot of movies are just a repeat of what I have seen 30 years ago. Same for music. I can go to India for the fifth time but it's not the same excitement and amount of new experiences as the first time. I don't know how to get out of this. I can't think of any truly new things to do. Maybe I could go to jail or win Wimbledon? These would be truly new :-)
- deepsun 5y agoOutdoor sports. Any of the following can consume your whole time, and have huge communities of full-time devotees: * Rock Climbing * Mountaineering * Kayaking * Paragliding * Kite/Windsurfing * Surfing * Snowboarding (if you ski, skiing if you snowboard) * Backcountry skiing (aka ski-tour)
- com2kid 5y agoLearn something completely unfamiliar to you. Something you are going to start off terrible at. Even better, an activity where the community surrounding it is also vastly different than your typical friends circle. Know a bunch of engineers? Dive into painting or sculpting. Find a way to twist your brain in a painful new direction.
- Apocryphon 5y agoAnecdotally, I've always felt that traveling to somewhere new feels like a longer experience than coming back from that place, unless the return trip has an emotional component to it (boredom, urgency, anxious to return). I tend to notice the details of the unfamiliar road more. On the way back, my mind has already cached that path.
- another_why 5y agoA very simple example which i can replicate at any time, with the same result: I have serious problems with memorizing places and can easily get lost anywhere where I haven't been yet. So, sometimes(knowing that i have a phone with gps in my pocket) I look at the map beforehand and try to go to some unknown place, on my own, in a limited time, like to a doctor appointment. And everytime it feels like it takes A LOT of time, like if I walked for 30 minutes when it was just 10. If I try it at the same place again, it will feel faster. Eventually, when I stop looking around and just go thinking about smth, like I usually do, it will feel like I walked for 5 minutes, when it actually was 20. It will not work in the same way if the time won't be limited - I will be more relaxed. People can spend years solving one problem in their mind and there are not many experiences in your mind until it generates smth you haven't thought about, and this doesn't happen often.
- sva_ 5y agoIf in the first year of life, you have 100% new experiences, 2nd year, 50% new experiences, etc, and reach an age of around 80, you'll have made half your life's experiences by the age of 20. I think in retrospect we perceive time through our memories, less so by our momentary experience. If your memories have little variance, you'll feel like time has passed quickly. So if you work some factory job for 40 years, you may feel like life passed by in a blink of a moment.
- Darmody 5y agoAnd you usually are not excited for the next day but for the nexy payday. Zombies until the weekend or until we get paid.
- 999900000999 5y agoI'll definitely agree with this, I'd advise anyone who's not tied down to routinely go on vacations, and even consider moving. Staying in old routines is comfortable, but to use myself as an example if I just stayed in la complaining about how horrible the city is, I'm robbing myself of a fuller life. My plan right now is to move abroad for at least a few months or so. I really need to change up things
- GuB-42 5y agoThe original article is inaccessible for me but it depends on the experimental protocol. What "speeds up"? Looking at a clock ticking doing nothing? Eating breakfast? Waiting in line? Watching a movie? An international flight? Memories of a typical work/school day? Memories of a two week vacation? And relative to what? You can't say something "speeds up" without a reference. For example you can ask : "What feels the longest, a day at Disneyland, or the 8h drive to get there?". And you will probably get different answers based on the context. Our body doesn't have a single clock, and BTW, neither do computers, so the transmission delay between neurons and the amount of new experiences can each explain a different kind of "speed up".
- aequitas 5y agoRegarding vacation or trips in general for me it still feels going by fast and less special as I get older. I recon it has to do with that in the past vacations and trips would be planned for me (by my parents) so everything was a surprise and a discovery. Nowadays I have to plan everything for my family, so I do a lot of research regarding where to go, what to do, what will be most fun. So there is less of a surprise for me in case things do go as planned (like an attraction being closed or not as fun as it would seem). But this also means there is less room for me to be surprised and discover.
- xnx 5y agoExactly. Often on vacation something I did in the morning will feel like a week ago.
- esja 5y agoI have long believed the same. I also experience this when taking a long drive to a new destination - it seems to take longer to get there than it does to return home.
- tylerscott 5y agoThat makes a ton of sense. The process of dissimulation that we go through as children just to be able to map language to our environment sounds like this. Once an experience is categorized we likely don't have the CPU spin up on the next similar experience. Business as usual. No need to make a note in memory about it.
- carlmr 5y agoI think this is true as well, it's easier to remember special days, than average days. Another issue is that kids are exposed to more varied experience at school. Jobs often expose us to similar experiences over and over again. The only problem is how to get paid to have a varied life.
- darkwater 5y agoIt's totally unscientific but in my opinion it's like when you are hiking a path you never did and when you reach your destination, you hike back. Going back always feels faster even if the pace is exactly the same, but you already know the path, you remember some rock, or that view, or those oaks. And your brain works less. We have routines when we are small children just like we have when we are adults so it might be that as we grow older the brain is in power saving mode and that feels like going back through a path you already know.
- bigwheeler 5y agoI have the opposite experience when hiking- The way back usually feels like it takes forever. I think it’s because I’m seeing things I’ve already seen, so it’s not as exciting as it was when I saw it the first time on the way in. Same thing for roadtrips too, if I take the same route both ways.
- darkwater 5y agoThen my anecdotal theory goes boom :)
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- Nevermark 5y agoI agree completely! Time seeming to speed up isn't a visual phenomena! I don't see people walking faster. People are not talking faster. It is in recall of recent times, not in the moment, that we feel like time is going by faster. And your point explains that. We tend to have fewer memories of recent time, because we had fewer unique experiences relative to when we were young and almost every day was full of new experiences and new things to learn.
- rkp8000 5y agoI also think this is a quite reasonable. For some work on this beyond anecdotal evidence, see https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1008668 https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/jo... . The authors' main finding (in rats and humans) is that the perception of the intensity of a stimulus relates to the perception of its duration, i.e. more intense stimuli are perceived as longer lasting. A speculation beyond the specific study would be that more intense experience generally (perhaps due to the saliency of more unique life events) could lead to a slowed down perception of time.
- dzhiurgis 5y agoAlso with increasing responsibilities of childcare and work you don't really even get time to be bored. I get max 2-3 hours per day for "myself" and half of that means just doing doing chores.
- pleb_nz 5y agoThis is my favourite theory and I liken it to this for those who have driven alot. The first trip on a new road or a road not travelled for a very long time always feels like it takes the longest. The more you travel that same road often the faster the journey feels. At least to a certain point.
- refurb 5y agoAs someone who moved to a country where I didn’t speak the language, then changed jobs twice and then moved to a third country I can honestly state the year went by just as fast.
- xtiansimon 5y agoYou want to experience a languishing day? Work as a poll worker for your local board of elections. You see 2-5 elections per year. The day lasts from 0500-2130h (at least here in NY) New faces throughout the day. Constant stimulation, followed by periods of inactivity. Practically impossible to guess when someone will walk in the door. Strict rules for how you’re supposed to conduct the election, combined with the anxiety of how your co-workers and yourself actually perform. And then waiting for the results.