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I have double vision because of previous eye surgery, and the end result is going to be a surgery where they 1. Put me under 2. Disconnect the muscles from th

I have double vision because of previous eye surgery, and the end result is going to be a surgery where they 1. Put me under 2. Disconnect the muscles from the back of the eye sockets and reconnect them temporarily in a better location 3. Wake me up and make sure the locations are correct 4. Push the eyes to the side and reach in with a tool to permanently attach the muscles The doctor was telling me the last part and I was staring at her like she was insane; "wait.. while I'm awake?!?". My plan is to just schedule a psychological appointment for later the same day.

david422 5y ago
Technology today is both amazing and terrifying all at the same time.
s1artibartfast 5y ago
Strabismus Surgery?
- Zababa 5y ago
  There's a surgery for strabismus? I've always heard that it was basically untreatable outside of wearing glasses.
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    (obligatory not a doctor, not your doctor) Apparently yes: https://eyewiki.aao.org/Strabismus_Surgery,_Horizontal https://eyewiki.aao.org/Strabismus_Surgery,_Horizontal
  - snuxoll 5y ago
    Had it when I was a child! Twice, even! (18mo and 10yr old). Mine was so bad my left eye basically hung out in the corner - so incredibly thankful for the awesome pediatric ophthalmologist I had looking back on how much different my vision could have turned out (it's still far from perfect, my left eye is mostly used for periphery, but it's much better than the alternatives).
    - Zababa 5y ago
      I've had it since birth I think, on my right eye, and while my left eye vision is great, I have trouble reading even very big text with my right eye. I'm a bit mad that I've never heard about this surgery until now.
      - snuxoll 5y ago
        I'd be a bit mad myself in that case, any board certified ophthalmologist should be well aware of the use of surgery as a treatment for strabismus; especially ones specialized in pediatric ophthalmology since it's better to take care of it at a young age while there's higher neuroplasticity (so a higher chance of the brain properly adapting to the corrected vision).
        Zababa 5y ago
        Maybe it's less of a thing in France, or it was at the time (early 2000)? You're right about neuroplasticity, even if I get it fixed now I don't know if my brain would adapt to it.
        ghusbands 5y ago
        I had my first strabismus surgery in the early 80s in the UK. It was not considered unusual and was handled in the local hospital. The technique has barely changed since 1839, apparently. [1] After surgery, there are some simple interventions, like wearing a patch covering your 'good' eye the majority of the time, so that your other eye gets wired in more. However, they recommend against this if the eye is unlikely to gain much function. Also, do note that, unless you had stereoscopic vision before age 3, almost all specialists believe you can never gain stereoscopy, but you can probably regain some function. (There are signs that VR headsets can help people or regain stereoscopy, in some cases. [2]) [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6389657/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6389657/ [2] https://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/ist/ei/2018/00002018/00000004/art00003?crawler=true&mimetype=application/pdf https://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/ist/ei/2018/000020...
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    Indeed there is! I had it in the mid 80s when I was a child. They put me completely under. My understanding is that today it's not uncommon to do it under a local anesthetic so they can test the correctness of the alignment in real time.
snuxoll 5y ago
> The doctor was telling me the last part and I was staring at her like she was insane; "wait.. while I'm awake?!? Holy hell, NOPE. I'm very glad I was under the whole time when I had my strabismus surgeries as a child, because I'm pretty sure I would be psychologically scarred for life.
coryrc 5y ago
Play Tetris after! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32293830/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32293830/

david422 5y ago

Technology today is both amazing and terrifying all at the same time.

s1artibartfast 5y ago

Strabismus Surgery?

Zababa 5y ago
There's a surgery for strabismus? I've always heard that it was basically untreatable outside of wearing glasses.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  (obligatory not a doctor, not your doctor) Apparently yes: https://eyewiki.aao.org/Strabismus_Surgery,_Horizontal https://eyewiki.aao.org/Strabismus_Surgery,_Horizontal
- snuxoll 5y ago
  Had it when I was a child! Twice, even! (18mo and 10yr old). Mine was so bad my left eye basically hung out in the corner - so incredibly thankful for the awesome pediatric ophthalmologist I had looking back on how much different my vision could have turned out (it's still far from perfect, my left eye is mostly used for periphery, but it's much better than the alternatives).
  - Zababa 5y ago
    I've had it since birth I think, on my right eye, and while my left eye vision is great, I have trouble reading even very big text with my right eye. I'm a bit mad that I've never heard about this surgery until now.
    - snuxoll 5y ago
      I'd be a bit mad myself in that case, any board certified ophthalmologist should be well aware of the use of surgery as a treatment for strabismus; especially ones specialized in pediatric ophthalmology since it's better to take care of it at a young age while there's higher neuroplasticity (so a higher chance of the brain properly adapting to the corrected vision).
      - Zababa 5y ago
        Maybe it's less of a thing in France, or it was at the time (early 2000)? You're right about neuroplasticity, even if I get it fixed now I don't know if my brain would adapt to it.
        ghusbands 5y ago
        I had my first strabismus surgery in the early 80s in the UK. It was not considered unusual and was handled in the local hospital. The technique has barely changed since 1839, apparently. [1] After surgery, there are some simple interventions, like wearing a patch covering your 'good' eye the majority of the time, so that your other eye gets wired in more. However, they recommend against this if the eye is unlikely to gain much function. Also, do note that, unless you had stereoscopic vision before age 3, almost all specialists believe you can never gain stereoscopy, but you can probably regain some function. (There are signs that VR headsets can help people or regain stereoscopy, in some cases. [2]) [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6389657/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6389657/ [2] https://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/ist/ei/2018/00002018/00000004/art00003?crawler=true&mimetype=application/pdf https://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/ist/ei/2018/000020...
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Indeed there is! I had it in the mid 80s when I was a child. They put me completely under. My understanding is that today it's not uncommon to do it under a local anesthetic so they can test the correctness of the alignment in real time.

snuxoll 5y ago

> The doctor was telling me the last part and I was staring at her like she was insane; "wait.. while I'm awake?!? Holy hell, NOPE. I'm very glad I was under the whole time when I had my strabismus surgeries as a child, because I'm pretty sure I would be psychologically scarred for life.

coryrc 5y ago

Play Tetris after! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32293830/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32293830/