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I have not played with VS Code a lot, but I get the impression that, yes, they aim for something similar. I'm not qualified to judge, though, how successful the

by krylon 5y ago

I have not played with VS Code a lot, but I get the impression that, yes, they aim for something similar. I'm not qualified to judge, though, how successful they are so far. FWIW, when I hear people talk about VS Code, they appear to like it very much. But AFAICT, it has some way to go to catch up with all the functionality emacs has accreted over 30+ years. Also, there is an effort replace the old lisp engine inside emacs with GNU Guile, which is a JIT compiler that supports Scheme, ELisp, and Javascript. I have not tried it so far, but it might become possible to customize and extend emacs with Javascript in the not-so-distant future.

oblio 5y ago
Isn't the Guile effort practically dead? I remember hearing about it 10 years ago. It was actually started in 2000 and doesn't seem to have progressed since 2014: https://emacsninja.com/posts/state-of-emacs-lisp-on-guile.html https://emacsninja.com/posts/state-of-emacs-lisp-on-guile.ht... Plus, even if it's finished, will it get any traction in the ecosystem? Will the ecosystem start moving to it to take advantage of its unique benefits? Who knows? Bonus: Have you heard of GNU Hurd? :-)
- krylon 5y ago
  I honestly don't know about the state or progress of Guile Emacs. I know it exists, but I haven't followed it beyond that. Assuming it gets "finished" (is any software ever finished?), it should be no-brainer as long as it provides backward compatibility with old elisp code. And open up the emacs ecosystem to Scheme and Javascript, which could make it much more attractive to newcomers. But, as they say, I'll believe it when I see it. The trouble with Hurd, IMHO, is that I've run out of jokes. We used to joke that it would run Duke Nukem Forever out of the box, but that one actually got finished. Then it was Perl 6, but that has arrived, too. Star Citizen maybe?
- r-zip 5y ago
  Yes, Guile Emacs got abandoned, at least the last time I checked.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
Is that like what the GCC-emacs project is doing with libgccjit? They are working (and have a great start on it) version of compiling most (all?) elisp with libgccjit to speed things up a bit if I understand it correctly. I have compiled it myself and it is most certainly faster to load and do "intensive" tasks faster than stock emacs. I've loaded both DoomEmacs and SpaceEmacs successfully with it.

by krylon 5y ago

oblio 5y ago

Isn't the Guile effort practically dead? I remember hearing about it 10 years ago. It was actually started in 2000 and doesn't seem to have progressed since 2014: https://emacsninja.com/posts/state-of-emacs-lisp-on-guile.html https://emacsninja.com/posts/state-of-emacs-lisp-on-guile.ht... Plus, even if it's finished, will it get any traction in the ecosystem? Will the ecosystem start moving to it to take advantage of its unique benefits? Who knows? Bonus: Have you heard of GNU Hurd? :-)

krylon 5y ago
I honestly don't know about the state or progress of Guile Emacs. I know it exists, but I haven't followed it beyond that. Assuming it gets "finished" (is any software ever finished?), it should be no-brainer as long as it provides backward compatibility with old elisp code. And open up the emacs ecosystem to Scheme and Javascript, which could make it much more attractive to newcomers. But, as they say, I'll believe it when I see it. The trouble with Hurd, IMHO, is that I've run out of jokes. We used to joke that it would run Duke Nukem Forever out of the box, but that one actually got finished. Then it was Perl 6, but that has arrived, too. Star Citizen maybe?
r-zip 5y ago
Yes, Guile Emacs got abandoned, at least the last time I checked.

stjohnswarts 5y ago

Is that like what the GCC-emacs project is doing with libgccjit? They are working (and have a great start on it) version of compiling most (all?) elisp with libgccjit to speed things up a bit if I understand it correctly. I have compiled it myself and it is most certainly faster to load and do "intensive" tasks faster than stock emacs. I've loaded both DoomEmacs and SpaceEmacs successfully with it.