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As I was reading the article, I started thinking this guy was right. At university, I would often have to get to a lab or whatever early in the morning and then
by 2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
As I was reading the article, I started thinking this guy was right. At university, I would often have to get to a lab or whatever early in the morning and then get home late at night. I would have this sort of routine for weeks or months at a time. I may as well have had no windows.
I think as long as you get out during the day, and as a student, that’s probably likely, this sort of arrangement seems to make sense. But still offends me.
- JKCalhoun 5y agoIt's offensive because it's someone dictating how student's should live. It besmirches any goodwill from the original act of philanthropy.
- Chris2048 5y agoIf there is no fountain in the lobby, is that also dictating how the students live: without lobby fountains?
- merrywhether 5y agoIn essence, you could describe your stance as forcing all residents to pay a tax for a benefit that you deem is for their own good. In this case it’s windows, but would you support this stance for other reasons? What if it was that all rooms come with a large crucifix on the wall (wasting wall and floor space)?
- refurb 5y agoI’m sorry what? No matter what type of dorm that is built it’s dictating how students should live?!?
- dls2016 5y agoIt’s a public university, and in my opinion the public should decide what to build… not unelected, unaccountable twits with a lot of money.
- mdp2021 5y ago> should decide Everyone with their own money. The university with its own, the donors with their own.
- pseudalopex 5y agoMunger's contribution would be 13% of the projected cost. And a public university's money belongs to the public.
- mdp2021 5y agoOf course. Your note does not seem consistent with the parent points. Different parties will propose conditional contribution. Those who do not agree with the project will retract the participation. The public does not decide on Munger's money, Munger will not decide over the public money. The parent post makes no sense: Charlie Munger does not decide "what to build", he decides whether to participate.
- dls2016 5y ago> Charlie Munger does not decide "what to build", he decides whether to participate. Sure, this is a convenient way to look at this particular situation. Yet I google "strings attached donation university" and see many instances of this crap: Koch brothers, John Allison, etc. It's serious enough that Harvard recently issued a "Gift Policy Guide" discourage strings-attached giving. Ironically, only the elite private universities have enough cachet to make such a policy stick.
- the-dude 5y agoAren't the opponents equally dictating how student's should live? Furthermore you are dismissing the fact that there still is a market, with choices.
- dr-detroit 5y agooption 1) die in the gutter like the filthy rat you are option 2) lick this dung off my boots
- JKCalhoun 5y agoI presume the "opponents" are the students themselves. They are the voice that matters I would imagine.
- Radle 5y agoThere's more options for the students to live than this singular building. There's nothing hindering students from renting an apartment, they don't have to use the 200$ million building.
- dls2016 5y agoThere are actually many UCSB students living in hotels due to a severe housing shortage.
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoAvailability, cost. We live in a housing shortage and an era of housing exploitation. I don't live in the US and don't know the local market, but a quick google says you need at least $2000 a month to get a basic apartment in Santa Barbara: https://www.apartments.com/santa-barbara-ca/ https://www.apartments.com/santa-barbara-ca/. Who has that kind of money, especially combined with a full time education? Your elitism is showing.
- mlac 5y agoWell, in theory increased supply will lower the rents in the surrounding area. No one will be forced to live there, but that location is a much better alternative than homeless or not.
- merrywhether 5y agoSo instead of attempting to deliver cheaper dense housing for 5000 students close to campus, we should make a windowed one that houses 3000 and tell the other 2000 to go to Sacramento and start lobbying for new state laws? Or do we instead try to get solutions at multiple scopes and not let perfect be the enemy of good.
- rkk3 5y ago> There's nothing hindering students from renting an apartment The ridiculous expense because of the acute housing shortage in SB. Which building the largest dorm in the country would help alleviate. > they don't have to use the 200$ million building 1.5$ Billion Building
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- mdp2021 5y ago> dictating how It's actually the opposite... It creates an option with different tradeoffs.