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I know it is going to sound like an ad-hominem, but once I realized that this is from the same person behind the "Grid protocol", I immediately closed the tab.

I know it is going to sound like an ad-hominem, but once I realized that this is from the same person behind the "Grid protocol", I immediately closed the tab. This guy seems to be on a quixotic vendetta against msxid. It is the third or fourth persona (first it was from a personal account, then from his company, now he has even a non-profit advocating for privacy) that he created to re-hash the same old, outdated and irrelevant argument. And the pathetic thing is, if he had spent more time working on his "Grid protocol" instead of pointless nitpicking, maybe he would have a lot more credibility on the matter.

vorejdajo 5y ago
It is ad-hominem and bias
- junon 5y ago
  Ad hom would be saying the author smells like moldy cheese and therefore we should disregard his opinion. The parent comment is not using ad hom. They're critiquing the author's work and assessing their credibility based off of that. It's perfectly fine, and a great viewpoint to consider.
- colordrops 5y ago
  Is pointing out conflict of interest and hominem?
spurgu 5y ago
I don't get this kind of thinking? How does the why of what he's saying influence the what? Or even worse, disqualify it? If it's factually correct then the reason behind writing it seems quite irrelevant, to me at least. And you're mentioning it's outdated, which would be natural given that the last commit was over two years ago.
- rglullis 5y ago
  It was outdated two years ago already, people already back then assuming good intent and pointed out that the "issues" he complained about were being worked on, yet he adamantly continued to ignore it and claim that everyone using Matrix was being duped and that his implementation of the id server was the only way to go. That is why.
  - spurgu 5y ago
    Oh ok, I stand corrected. Wasn't clear to me from your original post, but it actually makes sense now that I re-read it.
- eximius 5y ago
  It doesn't, but you can spend less effort engaging with someone acting in bad faith.

vorejdajo 5y ago

It is ad-hominem and bias

junon 5y ago
Ad hom would be saying the author smells like moldy cheese and therefore we should disregard his opinion. The parent comment is not using ad hom. They're critiquing the author's work and assessing their credibility based off of that. It's perfectly fine, and a great viewpoint to consider.
colordrops 5y ago
Is pointing out conflict of interest and hominem?

spurgu 5y ago

I don't get this kind of thinking? How does the why of what he's saying influence the what? Or even worse, disqualify it? If it's factually correct then the reason behind writing it seems quite irrelevant, to me at least. And you're mentioning it's outdated, which would be natural given that the last commit was over two years ago.

rglullis 5y ago
It was outdated two years ago already, people already back then assuming good intent and pointed out that the "issues" he complained about were being worked on, yet he adamantly continued to ignore it and claim that everyone using Matrix was being duped and that his implementation of the id server was the only way to go. That is why.
- spurgu 5y ago
  Oh ok, I stand corrected. Wasn't clear to me from your original post, but it actually makes sense now that I re-read it.
eximius 5y ago
It doesn't, but you can spend less effort engaging with someone acting in bad faith.