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> When he does get some, his facial expression looks like that of someone on drugs. Yes, exactly. Screens are extremely addictive to kids. (Adults too, I suppo

> When he does get some, his facial expression looks like that of someone on drugs. Yes, exactly. Screens are extremely addictive to kids. (Adults too, I suppose, but that's their own responsibility.)

watwut 5y ago
There is absolutely nothing addictive about "screen". It is when that screen plays youtube or kiddy game that it become addictive. If you put the kid in front of tablet without fun stuff, the kid will get bored quickly.
- em500 5y ago
  Yup. Just give them a tablet without any games and network connection, load it up with text, music or some (foreign) language phrasebook that you'd want them to learn. They'll get bored very quickly, but if they don't they learn something new. It's a win either way.
  - watwut 5y ago
    Yes, it will become exactly the same as any other educational toy. They play a bit and then stop. And even if you put games there, games are not created equals. Some games make them happy, engaged and they stop playing them fairly easy. Other games makes them grumpy, angry and they will act out when you want them to end.
- the_af 5y ago
  Not true in my experience. My 2-year old is addicted to the screen itself. It can be videos of cartoons of course, but also videos of trains, trucks, animals, sometimes she finds a programming-related conference I'm watching interesting (less interesting than a cartoon, but interesting enough to pay attention).
bpizzi 5y ago
> Screens are extremely addictive to kids. (Adults too, I suppose, but that's their own responsibility.) No, wrong. What can be addictive is the content displayed by the screen and the eventual interaction that the kid have with this content. Put a kid in front of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viOkh9al0xM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viOkh9al0xM (`This is the Train Driver's/engineers/operator/conductors view from the Bergen Line and the Famous Flåm Railway in Norway in Northern Europe.`), and start a 30s countdown: the kid will have left the screen before, guaranteed.
- the_af 5y ago
  Wrong. My 2-year old loves videos of trains, both from this perspective and showing the trains themselves. She can last longer than 30 seconds, and is thrilled by them way longer than me (the videos are pretty, but I find trains boring). The screen itself is addictive. Content can vary, but as long as it's not just a block color without sound or movement, many kids will find themselves glued to it.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 5y ago
    How about the content is addictive based on the kid's interest? You can use screen positively: the kid is able to describe back what is being seen, something reasonable is going on.
    - the_af 5y ago
      Agreed, probably what kids find attractive varies from kid to kid. I'm not saying it's negative. I usually bond with my daughter over things we watch together. It can be sometimes hard to unglue her from the screen, but I have some tactics that sometimes work (we don't watch TV or screens over dinner, so if she's hungry she has to turn it off. I can also convince her to turn it off if I go play with her, something that I also enjoy!).
      - Fire-Dragon-DoL 5y ago
        Similar! We used to watch tv at lunch, but almost never now. We do however one thing. She is allowed to get off the table when she wants, but if she does we take away her plate because she is done. We are a bit "elastic" on this because sometimes she gets down to grab something and goes back, or her brother is really distracting. However if she goes to the tv the plate is gone immediately (there is an informatory call before she reaches the tv "i see you are done with the food. Are you full?"). That has been working well. When she actually gets up she is done with food. It is also a great signal to figure out when she is constipated. She would almost skip 1 or 2 meals, then eat a lot once she is done.
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watwut 5y ago

There is absolutely nothing addictive about "screen". It is when that screen plays youtube or kiddy game that it become addictive. If you put the kid in front of tablet without fun stuff, the kid will get bored quickly.

em500 5y ago
Yup. Just give them a tablet without any games and network connection, load it up with text, music or some (foreign) language phrasebook that you'd want them to learn. They'll get bored very quickly, but if they don't they learn something new. It's a win either way.
- watwut 5y ago
  Yes, it will become exactly the same as any other educational toy. They play a bit and then stop. And even if you put games there, games are not created equals. Some games make them happy, engaged and they stop playing them fairly easy. Other games makes them grumpy, angry and they will act out when you want them to end.
the_af 5y ago
Not true in my experience. My 2-year old is addicted to the screen itself. It can be videos of cartoons of course, but also videos of trains, trucks, animals, sometimes she finds a programming-related conference I'm watching interesting (less interesting than a cartoon, but interesting enough to pay attention).

bpizzi 5y ago

> Screens are extremely addictive to kids. (Adults too, I suppose, but that's their own responsibility.) No, wrong. What can be addictive is the content displayed by the screen and the eventual interaction that the kid have with this content. Put a kid in front of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viOkh9al0xM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viOkh9al0xM (`This is the Train Driver's/engineers/operator/conductors view from the Bergen Line and the Famous Flåm Railway in Norway in Northern Europe.`), and start a 30s countdown: the kid will have left the screen before, guaranteed.

the_af 5y ago
Wrong. My 2-year old loves videos of trains, both from this perspective and showing the trains themselves. She can last longer than 30 seconds, and is thrilled by them way longer than me (the videos are pretty, but I find trains boring). The screen itself is addictive. Content can vary, but as long as it's not just a block color without sound or movement, many kids will find themselves glued to it.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 5y ago
  How about the content is addictive based on the kid's interest? You can use screen positively: the kid is able to describe back what is being seen, something reasonable is going on.
  - the_af 5y ago
    Agreed, probably what kids find attractive varies from kid to kid. I'm not saying it's negative. I usually bond with my daughter over things we watch together. It can be sometimes hard to unglue her from the screen, but I have some tactics that sometimes work (we don't watch TV or screens over dinner, so if she's hungry she has to turn it off. I can also convince her to turn it off if I go play with her, something that I also enjoy!).
    - Fire-Dragon-DoL 5y ago
      Similar! We used to watch tv at lunch, but almost never now. We do however one thing. She is allowed to get off the table when she wants, but if she does we take away her plate because she is done. We are a bit "elastic" on this because sometimes she gets down to grab something and goes back, or her brother is really distracting. However if she goes to the tv the plate is gone immediately (there is an informatory call before she reaches the tv "i see you are done with the food. Are you full?"). That has been working well. When she actually gets up she is done with food. It is also a great signal to figure out when she is constipated. She would almost skip 1 or 2 meals, then eat a lot once she is done.

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