Well I said this earlier but this is not specifically about my personal experience with shortcomings, although that was an influence. I have heard many of the s

Well I said this earlier but this is not specifically about my personal experience with shortcomings, although that was an influence. I have heard many of the same issues coming from large numbers of other people, and I think there is a reluctance to really own up to it because of some kind of fascination with this "romantic" idea of how a keyboard interface is supposed to be. It's like, people get that idea in their head that's what they want and they can't let it go, and then it becomes a game of sunk cost fallacy. Of course that is not new or even all that uncommon in open source but I think it's irresponsible to not point it out when I personally see it. "a tiling-first but ultimately still dynamic WM" In my opinion, these are all bad hacks that are made worse by being tiling first. In some ways I would actually consider these worse than a pure tiling window manager, because they tend to not focus on any particular way of doing things and so it becomes a pastiche of concepts that are not really compatible.