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I think ProtonMail changed after about a year. That's when I suddenly could no longer create new accounts with tor unless I linked a phone number or "real" emai

I think ProtonMail changed after about a year. That's when I suddenly could no longer create new accounts with tor unless I linked a phone number or "real" email address (gmail/etc). Around the same time they also changed the system so that password recovery was easier to do. This means they were now generally able to unencrypt your emails without your password. The last secure email provider was the original Lavabit.

blitzar 5y ago
They set out to create a secure email service for all. They got lots of darkweb drug dealers & buyers, spammers, fappers, leakers, escorts, johns, and privacy larpers. For a while post snowden it looked like people cared, it turns out they didnt, hence why after a year or so the anti abuse stuff picked up. > The last secure email provider was the original Lavabit. Was never secure in the first place ... yes they used ssl, but so did/does gmail.
- rufus_foreman 5y ago
  All the animals come online at night. Johns, darkweb drug dealers, fappers, escorts, spammers, larpers, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the internet. I sell bandwidth to anyone. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take MAGA. Don't make no difference to me.
killingtime74 5y ago
"unencrypt", do you mean they can decrypt user emails? because that would be a surprise to me, where did you find this?
- runnerup 5y ago
  If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password.
  - jrootabega 5y ago
    > If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password. runnerup, what leads you to believe this is possible? According to their password reset instructions, resetting your password will prevent you from decrypting any existing messages: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password... An attack using this specific method would require resetting your password and then reading any emails you receive afterwards.

blitzar 5y ago

They set out to create a secure email service for all. They got lots of darkweb drug dealers & buyers, spammers, fappers, leakers, escorts, johns, and privacy larpers. For a while post snowden it looked like people cared, it turns out they didnt, hence why after a year or so the anti abuse stuff picked up. > The last secure email provider was the original Lavabit. Was never secure in the first place ... yes they used ssl, but so did/does gmail.

rufus_foreman 5y ago
All the animals come online at night. Johns, darkweb drug dealers, fappers, escorts, spammers, larpers, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the internet. I sell bandwidth to anyone. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take MAGA. Don't make no difference to me.

killingtime74 5y ago

"unencrypt", do you mean they can decrypt user emails? because that would be a surprise to me, where did you find this?

runnerup 5y ago
If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password.
- jrootabega 5y ago
  > If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password. runnerup, what leads you to believe this is possible? According to their password reset instructions, resetting your password will prevent you from decrypting any existing messages: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password... An attack using this specific method would require resetting your password and then reading any emails you receive afterwards.