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I’ve read posts like this about ProtonMail for years and found lengthy, detailed write ups debunking them every time. If ProtonMail is getting short tempered ab

by Rd6n6 5y ago

I’ve read posts like this about ProtonMail for years and found lengthy, detailed write ups debunking them every time. If ProtonMail is getting short tempered about this, I can understand why. If they sent a cease and desist letter to somebody who is publicly, confidently, and repeatedly making untrue claims, that only makes sense

vmception 5y ago
Imagine distorting reality so much to accept this reality
- jcims 5y ago
  Imagine a world without this weird passive-aggressive linguistic device.
  - vmception 5y ago
    its to provoke introspection where the folly of the perspective is not worth mentioning yet, which it has
    - jcims 5y ago
      It's needlessly mocking and dunky. You could have just used the points you supplied to the follow up question.
- Rd6n6 5y ago
  > Imagine distorting reality so much to accept this reality What do you mean?
  - vmception 5y ago
    Both things you observe happen, but that doesn’t absolve proton of its suspiciously misleading advertising They act like a honeypot. They redirect onion users to an exit node undermining the point of having an onion service, they require a phone number for onion users instead of actually offering privacy. They rely in their fans to shield them from criticism while doing these privacy counterintuitive things. The same thing happened at a swiss encryption company for 50 years. Employees kept finding flaws in the encryption and kept getting told to work on anything else and it turned out to be a CIA front intentionally selling backdoored encrypted communication devices worldwide [1]. When proton is doing the same thing and has an even more obvious ownership structure incentivized to keep a charade up, there is no reason to use proton for any of the reasons they advertise. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51487856 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51487856 (BBC, find a source you happen to respect that corroborates the same thing)

by Rd6n6 5y ago

vmception 5y ago

Imagine distorting reality so much to accept this reality

jcims 5y ago
Imagine a world without this weird passive-aggressive linguistic device.
- vmception 5y ago
  its to provoke introspection where the folly of the perspective is not worth mentioning yet, which it has
  - jcims 5y ago
    It's needlessly mocking and dunky. You could have just used the points you supplied to the follow up question.
Rd6n6 5y ago
> Imagine distorting reality so much to accept this reality What do you mean?
- vmception 5y ago
  Both things you observe happen, but that doesn’t absolve proton of its suspiciously misleading advertising They act like a honeypot. They redirect onion users to an exit node undermining the point of having an onion service, they require a phone number for onion users instead of actually offering privacy. They rely in their fans to shield them from criticism while doing these privacy counterintuitive things. The same thing happened at a swiss encryption company for 50 years. Employees kept finding flaws in the encryption and kept getting told to work on anything else and it turned out to be a CIA front intentionally selling backdoored encrypted communication devices worldwide [1]. When proton is doing the same thing and has an even more obvious ownership structure incentivized to keep a charade up, there is no reason to use proton for any of the reasons they advertise. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51487856 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51487856 (BBC, find a source you happen to respect that corroborates the same thing)