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Did something change with Proton corp that has them being a bit more hostile as of late? Peter Sunde is a credible source for this, and it doesn't seem like he'

by 0des 5y ago

Did something change with Proton corp that has them being a bit more hostile as of late? Peter Sunde is a credible source for this, and it doesn't seem like he'd fall victim to dog-piling on the media's hate-du-jour like the normal facebook news cycle. There is concern forming on this end for the future of the service if they continue with mis-steps like this.

ushakov 5y ago
i don't think the service was/is as good as the image they created for it to begin with
- runnerup 5y ago
  I think ProtonMail changed after about a year. That's when I suddenly could no longer create new accounts with tor unless I linked a phone number or "real" email address (gmail/etc). Around the same time they also changed the system so that password recovery was easier to do. This means they were now generally able to unencrypt your emails without your password. The last secure email provider was the original Lavabit.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    They set out to create a secure email service for all. They got lots of darkweb drug dealers & buyers, spammers, fappers, leakers, escorts, johns, and privacy larpers. For a while post snowden it looked like people cared, it turns out they didnt, hence why after a year or so the anti abuse stuff picked up. > The last secure email provider was the original Lavabit. Was never secure in the first place ... yes they used ssl, but so did/does gmail.
    - rufus_foreman 5y ago
      All the animals come online at night. Johns, darkweb drug dealers, fappers, escorts, spammers, larpers, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the internet. I sell bandwidth to anyone. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take MAGA. Don't make no difference to me.
  - killingtime74 5y ago
    "unencrypt", do you mean they can decrypt user emails? because that would be a surprise to me, where did you find this?
    - runnerup 5y ago
      If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password.
      - jrootabega 5y ago
        > If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password. runnerup, what leads you to believe this is possible? According to their password reset instructions, resetting your password will prevent you from decrypting any existing messages: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password... An attack using this specific method would require resetting your password and then reading any emails you receive afterwards.

by 0des 5y ago

ushakov 5y ago

i don't think the service was/is as good as the image they created for it to begin with

runnerup 5y ago
I think ProtonMail changed after about a year. That's when I suddenly could no longer create new accounts with tor unless I linked a phone number or "real" email address (gmail/etc). Around the same time they also changed the system so that password recovery was easier to do. This means they were now generally able to unencrypt your emails without your password. The last secure email provider was the original Lavabit.
- blitzar 5y ago
  They set out to create a secure email service for all. They got lots of darkweb drug dealers & buyers, spammers, fappers, leakers, escorts, johns, and privacy larpers. For a while post snowden it looked like people cared, it turns out they didnt, hence why after a year or so the anti abuse stuff picked up. > The last secure email provider was the original Lavabit. Was never secure in the first place ... yes they used ssl, but so did/does gmail.
  - rufus_foreman 5y ago
    All the animals come online at night. Johns, darkweb drug dealers, fappers, escorts, spammers, larpers, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the internet. I sell bandwidth to anyone. I don't care. Don't make no difference to me. It does to some. Some won't even take MAGA. Don't make no difference to me.
- killingtime74 5y ago
  "unencrypt", do you mean they can decrypt user emails? because that would be a surprise to me, where did you find this?
  - runnerup 5y ago
    If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password.
    - jrootabega 5y ago
      > If you can lose your password, and then hit "Forgot password" and get access to your emails again...then they can run the same routines without your password. runnerup, what leads you to believe this is possible? According to their password reset instructions, resetting your password will prevent you from decrypting any existing messages: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/reset-password... An attack using this specific method would require resetting your password and then reading any emails you receive afterwards.