That's fair! I think you can get a lot of that from modern frameworks, provided you are willing to stick to their conventions and never deviate. It's been my e

That's fair! I think you can get a lot of that from modern frameworks, provided you are willing to stick to their conventions and never deviate. It's been my experience that sooner or later, every app has a reason to deviate. Maybe you wind up constructing a large analytical query as a string because nobody loves joining a dozen tables in an ORM. Maybe you find yourself stuck at a vulnerable version of a package because that branch has been EoL'd and the patched versions require major logic reworking. So I think you're right - you can get a lot of the tools to be compatible with many of these items from a framework. I'm just not so sure about how much of that is automatically inheritable by an actual working app.