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Argentine ISPs Use Bazooka to Kill Fly

33 points by srl 15y ago

nixusg 15y ago
One more reason to have your own IP addresses.
- sp332 15y ago
  It's harder to administer a blog yourself than to host it on Blogger. Can you host a blogger.com blog from your own IP?
  - ars 15y ago
    You could redirect (at the IP level or proxy) all traffic from your IP to the real blogger IP. In fact maybe someone with bandwidth could do that for Argentina to help them out ;)
dasil003 15y ago
What other way is there to block a website that can't be circumvented by changing DNS servers?
- icebraining 15y ago
  Deep packet inspection. More specifically, either block DNS requests for those domains or the actual HTTP requests.
  - guelo 15y ago
    Right, so if an ISP doesn't have the capability to do that kind of blocking then the only way to comply with the court order is to null route blogspot.com
    - ToastOpt 15y ago
      Or, more accurately, the IP address it resolves to. The ISP is primarily in the business of moving IP packets; domain names do not appear at the IP layer. (they also provide DNS services; they could disable resolution of blogspot.com, is that what you meant?)
MichaelApproved 15y ago
Isn't this about cost? It's cheaper to have a router filter out an IP address than it is to have the router inspect the traffic and filter it based on URL.
billpg 15y ago
So my website is banned in Argentina? Cool!
jrockway 15y ago
This seems like a poor way to censor the Internet. Can't Google trivially change what address hosts Blogger in about 5 seconds? (Also, the site in question seems pretty interesting. A wikileaks-alike?)
- getsat 15y ago
  Also, can't you just use Google to view the cached version? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.leakymails.com%2F&pbx=1&oq=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.leakymails.com%2F http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy&#38...
- wslh 15y ago
  There is another tragicomic story about McDonald's Argentina removing the Big Mac (from the list) because the Government wants to hide the inflation index that will be revealed comparing to the Big Mac Index. See: - The Big Mac Index: Case of the Mysterious Disappearing Big Mac in Buenos Aires http://localbuenosaires.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/the-big-mac-index-case-of-the-mysterious-disappearing-big-mac-in-buenos-aires/ http://localbuenosaires.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/the-big-mac... (read the comments) - http://www.economist.com/node/18587317 http://www.economist.com/node/18587317

33 points by srl 15y ago

nixusg 15y ago

One more reason to have your own IP addresses.

sp332 15y ago
It's harder to administer a blog yourself than to host it on Blogger. Can you host a blogger.com blog from your own IP?
- ars 15y ago
  You could redirect (at the IP level or proxy) all traffic from your IP to the real blogger IP. In fact maybe someone with bandwidth could do that for Argentina to help them out ;)

dasil003 15y ago

What other way is there to block a website that can't be circumvented by changing DNS servers?

icebraining 15y ago
Deep packet inspection. More specifically, either block DNS requests for those domains or the actual HTTP requests.
- guelo 15y ago
  Right, so if an ISP doesn't have the capability to do that kind of blocking then the only way to comply with the court order is to null route blogspot.com
  - ToastOpt 15y ago
    Or, more accurately, the IP address it resolves to. The ISP is primarily in the business of moving IP packets; domain names do not appear at the IP layer. (they also provide DNS services; they could disable resolution of blogspot.com, is that what you meant?)

MichaelApproved 15y ago

Isn't this about cost? It's cheaper to have a router filter out an IP address than it is to have the router inspect the traffic and filter it based on URL.

billpg 15y ago

So my website is banned in Argentina? Cool!

jrockway 15y ago

This seems like a poor way to censor the Internet. Can't Google trivially change what address hosts Blogger in about 5 seconds? (Also, the site in question seems pretty interesting. A wikileaks-alike?)

getsat 15y ago
Also, can't you just use Google to view the cached version? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.leakymails.com%2F&pbx=1&oq=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.leakymails.com%2F http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sclient=psy&#38...
wslh 15y ago
There is another tragicomic story about McDonald's Argentina removing the Big Mac (from the list) because the Government wants to hide the inflation index that will be revealed comparing to the Big Mac Index. See: - The Big Mac Index: Case of the Mysterious Disappearing Big Mac in Buenos Aires http://localbuenosaires.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/the-big-mac-index-case-of-the-mysterious-disappearing-big-mac-in-buenos-aires/ http://localbuenosaires.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/the-big-mac... (read the comments) - http://www.economist.com/node/18587317 http://www.economist.com/node/18587317