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Microsoft buying Github was the best thing that could've happened to Github/open source in general. Screw the people who still spread MS FUD. I cannot think of
by dirkg 5y ago
Microsoft buying Github was the best thing that could've happened to Github/open source in general.
Screw the people who still spread MS FUD. I cannot think of any other company, certainly not FB/Goog (Amzn has nothing in this space and no interest outside paid AWS services) that would've done anything close to what MS have done.
Everything is better, tons of things are now free, integration has improved, there's full transparency. It helps that MS's own tools like VSCode, VS online etc are best in class by some margin and used by everyone.
- yepthatsreality 5y agoIt’s not FUD if Microsoft has a history of EEE. I’m rolling my eyes hard at your claim of VS Code as best in class. If the category is JS-powered code editors then I’ll surely give them that title. However BS Code has many flaws compared to other IDEs. One being that it’s restricted in performance by the language it’s written in. I don’t use those products so I must not be apart of everyone?
- dirkg 5y agoHave you used Atom, Sublime etc? VS Code is far better than them, and its an actual IDE. I don't know how much you work in JS but VSC is the defacto choice for everyone and has a million extensions while still being fast. If you don't work in that area then its understandable but you really shouldn't comment on it in that case. Its not competing with VS for instance.
- monsieurbanana 5y agoSo you say that VS Code is best in class IDE, without specifying any scope. Then when someone calls that out, they shouldn't comment if they don't work with Javascript? Which one is it, best in class JS editor (which yepthatsreality actually agreed to), or best in class IDE (but only people who work on JS can comment on that...)?
- yepthatsreality 5y agoI have used Atom, VS Code, Vim, Nano, SublimeText, Notepad++, Jetbrains IDEs, etc. I currently use SublimeText and Javascript is the primary language at my employer (beating out Perl, PHP, Ruby, Python, Groovy, Java, and Typescript). SublimeText has plenty of supported plugins and is even faster and can handle larger files than VS Code. I'm not here to dick measure though.
- sleepycatgirl 5y agoBetter than other? No. Best in some cases? Maybe. There is never "Just Best". Its always very much subjective. And speed is not always everything, as long as it is fast enough. And for example.. For me, my use case, emacs is best. It can do anything. It is best as Swiss Army knife, because it can do anything. JS IDE? Sure here. Clojure? Here you go boss. Haskell? Hell yeah. Especially, since introduction of LSP stuff (Emacs LSP and Eglot). Simultaneously it can do IRC, note taking, literate programming, statistics, and much more, like remote editing with TRAMP. So in that case, it is best. But is it best as just Java IDE? Absolutely not.
- arp242 5y ago> It’s not FUD if Microsoft has a history of EEE. When is the last time Microsoft "EEE"-ed anything? The most recent examples are 20 years old. And look, you should never trust $bigcorp blindly, that would be naïve, but people have these 20-year old grievances that have little bearing on the situation today.
- xxs 5y agoskype, lync, skype for business, teams...
- unreal37 5y agoMicrosoft acquired Skype more than 10 years ago... Surely they screwed up the massive lead in the space that Skype had, but I can't say they "EEE"'d it. It was just badly run.
- yepthatsreality 5y agoPoor management/neglect is part of the extinguish step.
- skc 5y agoSo, purposely?
- IanSanders 5y agoIf it happens consistently, does it matter?
- yepthatsreality 5y agoHow do you prove intent in a historical context without admission?
- arp242 5y agoSkype was never anywhere near "open" and always fully proprietary. It was just a change of management, and nowhere near "EEE". Teams is just a run-of-the-mill chat thingy, no? Was is ever open in any way or built on standards? What did they "embrace" or "extend"?