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Thats not exactly correct. You can own hollow points in NJ, but you may only transport them from place of purchase to your home, or from your home directly to t

Thats not exactly correct. You can own hollow points in NJ, but you may only transport them from place of purchase to your home, or from your home directly to the range where you intend to shoot them, or from range back to home. It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted.

post_break 5y ago
If that's the case, it's still completely dumb. If you shoot someone in self defense with ball ammo it's definitely going to over penetrate and keep going possibly hitting anyone or anything behind the threat. And what happens if you are driving from the range and experience a flat tire, have to use the restroom, an emergency where you need to go somewhere else. Bad laws.
- sjg007 5y ago
  Hollow points are more destructive and dangerous to the person who was shot. They cause so much internal damage that the person will not survive a wound that may have been survivable otherwise. They are banned by the Geneva convention.
  - post_break 5y ago
    Why do police use them then?
    - namelessoracle 5y ago
      Because they are less likely to also shoot the person behind the person you shot.
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    I'd like a source on that final sentence if you have it. I get the arguments for and against them, but I generally favor leaving those decisions up to the people involved.
    - sjg007 5y ago
      Why don’t you Google it? Easy to find.
      - portpecos 5y ago
        >It is a common misapprehension that hollow-point ammunition is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, as the prohibition significantly predates those conventions. There ya go. Easy to find.
busymom0 5y ago
> It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted. That makes no sense and if that's the case, it's definitely unconstitutional.
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  Also, who shoots hollow points at the range? They're super expensive.
  - to11mtm 5y ago
    Random guess; Carve-out intended for off duty LEOs?
mikestew 5y ago
It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense What the hell else am I supposed to do with hollow points but shoot someone? Target practice? That's a waste of good ammo and money. I lean left enough to feel that our gun laws are way too lax, but this particular law as described is just pointless posturing. It reminds me of "cop killer bullets". Umm, you mean rifle rounds, that can penetrate an armored vest? No, you mean a Teflon coating?[0] Well, turns out... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon-coated_bullet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon-coated_bullet

post_break 5y ago

If that's the case, it's still completely dumb. If you shoot someone in self defense with ball ammo it's definitely going to over penetrate and keep going possibly hitting anyone or anything behind the threat. And what happens if you are driving from the range and experience a flat tire, have to use the restroom, an emergency where you need to go somewhere else. Bad laws.

sjg007 5y ago
Hollow points are more destructive and dangerous to the person who was shot. They cause so much internal damage that the person will not survive a wound that may have been survivable otherwise. They are banned by the Geneva convention.
- post_break 5y ago
  Why do police use them then?
  - namelessoracle 5y ago
    Because they are less likely to also shoot the person behind the person you shot.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  I'd like a source on that final sentence if you have it. I get the arguments for and against them, but I generally favor leaving those decisions up to the people involved.
  - sjg007 5y ago
    Why don’t you Google it? Easy to find.
    - portpecos 5y ago
      >It is a common misapprehension that hollow-point ammunition is prohibited by the Geneva Conventions, as the prohibition significantly predates those conventions. There ya go. Easy to find.

busymom0 5y ago

> It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted. That makes no sense and if that's the case, it's definitely unconstitutional.

xanaxagoras 5y ago
Also, who shoots hollow points at the range? They're super expensive.
- to11mtm 5y ago
  Random guess; Carve-out intended for off duty LEOs?

mikestew 5y ago

It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense What the hell else am I supposed to do with hollow points but shoot someone? Target practice? That's a waste of good ammo and money. I lean left enough to feel that our gun laws are way too lax, but this particular law as described is just pointless posturing. It reminds me of "cop killer bullets". Umm, you mean rifle rounds, that can penetrate an armored vest? No, you mean a Teflon coating?[0] Well, turns out... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon-coated_bullet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon-coated_bullet