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What did you find convincing about that article? It seems like it takes the worst evidence to support the mental health claim, disputes them and then offers sim

What did you find convincing about that article? It seems like it takes the worst evidence to support the mental health claim, disputes them and then offers similar fallacious arguments to blame housing issues. Anecdotally, I live in a quite affordable medium sized city in the midwest, and even we have a homeless crisis and an increasingly number of homeless encampments on public property. The local government being dominated by progressives, lets these encampments continue - which previously were never permitted.

davidw 5y ago
He does not dispute that mental health and drugs are problematic. He points out that they are problems everywhere, and it's the places with high housing prices that have more homelessness. Right now, the price of homes is going up everywhere, and as a consequence, I'd expect to see more homelessness everywhere. The camps may also have something to do with this, which has little to do with what local politicians do or do not want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_v._Boise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_v._Boise It's bizarre how much people fight against this notion. You talk about not many people having Ferraris because they're expensive, and people look at you like "uh, ok, duh". But when the median price of homes is over 850,000 dollars (California), it's this BIG MYSTERY why people do not have homes.
- throwaway1777 5y ago
  There’s been a a big change recently. McDonald’s pays $17 per hour in the Bay Area now. That’s 35k per year, almost 3k per month. Companies are trying anything to get more workers. Even in the Bay Area that is enough to stay off the street if you want to. Unless they are disabled, I have a lot less sympathy for people on the street when there are a record number of unfilled jobs.
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What did you find convincing about that article? It seems like it takes the worst evidence to support the mental health claim, disputes them and then offers sim

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davidw 5y ago
He does not dispute that mental health and drugs are problematic. He points out that they are problems everywhere, and it's the places with high housing prices that have more homelessness. Right now, the price of homes is going up everywhere, and as a consequence, I'd expect to see more homelessness everywhere. The camps may also have something to do with this, which has little to do with what local politicians do or do not want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_v._Boise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_v._Boise It's bizarre how much people fight against this notion. You talk about not many people having Ferraris because they're expensive, and people look at you like "uh, ok, duh". But when the median price of homes is over 850,000 dollars (California), it's this BIG MYSTERY why people do not have homes.
- throwaway1777 5y ago
  There’s been a a big change recently. McDonald’s pays $17 per hour in the Bay Area now. That’s 35k per year, almost 3k per month. Companies are trying anything to get more workers. Even in the Bay Area that is enough to stay off the street if you want to. Unless they are disabled, I have a lot less sympathy for people on the street when there are a record number of unfilled jobs.
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