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Yes sorry I mistyped, it was early, I meant the bully pays you to sit in the corner, otherwise he beats you up. Sure he's paying you, but it's still clearly co

Yes sorry I mistyped, it was early, I meant the bully pays you to sit in the corner, otherwise he beats you up. Sure he's paying you, but it's still clearly coercive.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Israelis don't see the US as a bully. I have never heard of this viewpoint, Israel has settlers, it has borders, and if it chooses to change its borders the US won't be the bully, it will be a battle with the other countries in the middle east. I don't get any of your points, you are complaining about money that Israel takes and how its coersive, so you don't have to take the money? Trump moved the US embassy to Jersusalem, and the US gives billions of aid to Israel. What is your criteria for "antisemitism"? If accepting the capital of Israel, giving money, military aid, is your definition of antisemetic it dimimishes Nazis activity if you group aid into "bullying" and "antisemitism".
- yyyk 5y ago
  Basically his position, when you strip out the inflammatory rhetoric, is that the US wants to keep Israel weak and dependent on US aid. i.e. Get Israel to make concessions (say returning the Sinai to Egypt), the US covers up for that with aid, but the aid can always be withdrawn (say if Israel dares make the US upset, or if some radical President is elected), leaving Israel dependent, and at risk in the long term. I don't think that accurately describes US policy anymore, if it ever did. Modern day US administrations have withdrawn from the world, and that means their ME policies are not determined by reality, but by domestic ideologies and domestic political considerations.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Are you Israeli? I read his rhetoric and I have never seen such ridiculous statements made by anyone. They are so disconnected from reality I never seen this kind of belief in my life.
    - yyyk 5y ago
      I've read all kinds of absolutely insane rhetoric on I/P (way beyond this), I don't think much would surprise me anymore. That conflict used to generate way more of this type of rhetoric than anything else, but recently other issues seems to have caught up in this department...
KoftaBob 5y ago
Hope the JIDF is paying you well.

Yes sorry I mistyped, it was early, I meant the bully pays you to sit in the corner, otherwise he beats you up. Sure he's paying you, but it's still clearly coercive.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

Israelis don't see the US as a bully. I have never heard of this viewpoint, Israel has settlers, it has borders, and if it chooses to change its borders the US won't be the bully, it will be a battle with the other countries in the middle east. I don't get any of your points, you are complaining about money that Israel takes and how its coersive, so you don't have to take the money? Trump moved the US embassy to Jersusalem, and the US gives billions of aid to Israel. What is your criteria for "antisemitism"? If accepting the capital of Israel, giving money, military aid, is your definition of antisemetic it dimimishes Nazis activity if you group aid into "bullying" and "antisemitism".

yyyk 5y ago
Basically his position, when you strip out the inflammatory rhetoric, is that the US wants to keep Israel weak and dependent on US aid. i.e. Get Israel to make concessions (say returning the Sinai to Egypt), the US covers up for that with aid, but the aid can always be withdrawn (say if Israel dares make the US upset, or if some radical President is elected), leaving Israel dependent, and at risk in the long term. I don't think that accurately describes US policy anymore, if it ever did. Modern day US administrations have withdrawn from the world, and that means their ME policies are not determined by reality, but by domestic ideologies and domestic political considerations.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Are you Israeli? I read his rhetoric and I have never seen such ridiculous statements made by anyone. They are so disconnected from reality I never seen this kind of belief in my life.
  - yyyk 5y ago
    I've read all kinds of absolutely insane rhetoric on I/P (way beyond this), I don't think much would surprise me anymore. That conflict used to generate way more of this type of rhetoric than anything else, but recently other issues seems to have caught up in this department...

KoftaBob 5y ago

Hope the JIDF is paying you well.