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> Getting offended at every low-ball offer seems like a difficult way to live life. I interpret low-ball offers (and by low-ball I mean rates well below the go

by nuerow 5y ago

> Getting offended at every low-ball offer seems like a difficult way to live life. I interpret low-ball offers (and by low-ball I mean rates well below the going market rate) as blatant attempts to abuse and swindle me and a collosal show of bad faith. Accepting such an offer means being exploited, and being offered one means the exploiter saw in me a valid target for abuse. I don't know how it's possible to not take it personally. Your income is perhaps the most influential parameter that governs your life. > It's not like showing anger is going to get you a better offer or better working conditions. Not accepting abuse does not mean getting angry, at least if you're an adult.

credit_guy 5y ago
> blatant attempts to abuse Managers most often don't pay from their own pockets. They are not trying to abuse, exploit, swindle, etc. They are just humans like you and me, trying to do their job. They have job openings, they hire for those, but generally don't have much say in the compensation for those openings. A lot of managers have simply to incentive to underpay. I can't talk about all, the world is too big, and there are probably plenty of exceptions. But the vast majority of managers simply would love to pay their employees as much as they could, only it's really not up to them.
- effingwewt 5y ago
  Doesn't matter. The manager doesn't get a pass for following the owner's bullshit. The manager is complicit in the abuse of the employees, doesn't matter they were just 'following orders'. Whole businesses have shut down over this. An entire burger king quit all at once and posted in on their signage. I will never eat at another burger king knowing how they treat their workers now. If more people had ethics and morals other than the 'holy profit' we'd be a much better society. I, for one, stand with my brothers and sisters in their struggle. I guess you need to have been through it to have empathy anymore.

by nuerow 5y ago

credit_guy 5y ago

> blatant attempts to abuse Managers most often don't pay from their own pockets. They are not trying to abuse, exploit, swindle, etc. They are just humans like you and me, trying to do their job. They have job openings, they hire for those, but generally don't have much say in the compensation for those openings. A lot of managers have simply to incentive to underpay. I can't talk about all, the world is too big, and there are probably plenty of exceptions. But the vast majority of managers simply would love to pay their employees as much as they could, only it's really not up to them.

effingwewt 5y ago
Doesn't matter. The manager doesn't get a pass for following the owner's bullshit. The manager is complicit in the abuse of the employees, doesn't matter they were just 'following orders'. Whole businesses have shut down over this. An entire burger king quit all at once and posted in on their signage. I will never eat at another burger king knowing how they treat their workers now. If more people had ethics and morals other than the 'holy profit' we'd be a much better society. I, for one, stand with my brothers and sisters in their struggle. I guess you need to have been through it to have empathy anymore.